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4 DOF (PITCH-ROLL-TRACTION LOSS-SURGE)

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Enrico, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. Enrico

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    tomorrow will instal the cards box and some parts more to paint..
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    I am enjoying following your build progress but you don't need a separate post for each picture, that just makes your thread a chore to scroll through, so please consider putting more information and pictures together in future posts.
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    Hi everybody, this is the way I connect the pot to the motor shaft, of course I will cut the screw to the lenght required
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    Hi everybody, after a very long stop I'm restarting. Here the very first movements (without feedback) :cheers..
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    ....sorry, the file is too big , I will try to load on you tube and put the link.
    Sorry again
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    ...must be here
    ...I hope
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    Check that engine that makes a weird noise
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    Add some picture of how I connect the pot. Maybe can be usefull for someone....

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    Today I tested both motors with Pololu software and play with positions and PID :cheers Now its time to download Simtools and try to move. :grin
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    ...forgot a question...
    Can someone explain me how to use a joystick to move the rig?
    Thx
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    There is a generic Joystick Plugin, if that is what you mean: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/joystick-plugin.127/

    Or use one of the many flight sim games that have SimTools plugins.

    But you don't need a plugin or joystick at all to just move the rig, you can do that with SimTools in Output Testing.
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    Hi guys, I finally finish my sim

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    I already move the motors with jrk and seems to be ok.
    Right now I have downloaded simtools and now will ask for activation code. After that I think will need your support ...:)
    Thx
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    Hi everybody,

    here the first movments of my rig with LFS.

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    :grin:cheers..maybe the movments are a little to hard but I have to refining the motion profile.

    I have a question .

    When I start with LFS everything is ok but after some laps the rig lost the right level. I mean the center position of the right motor became different respect the left one (it hangs to the right).
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    There are a range of possible factors that may be affecting the motor.

    I am assuming the PSU is not tripping out.

    So check the balance of your rig.

    Your lever CTC hole distance may be too big.

    You may also need to refine your PID settings.
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    The PSU work well no problem with it . The rig lost the level but it continues to work

    the balance seems to be ok

    Later I will try to refine the PID
    Will try also a test changing the CTC

    THX a lot for your support :thumbs
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    Hi friend, I suggest you check the position of the right potentiometer in case it is wrong. A greeting.

    Hola amigo, te sugiero que revises la posicion del potenciometro derecho por si estuviese mal fijado. Un saludo.