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DIY FFB STEERING WHEEL

Discussion in 'DIY peripherals' started by Gilvan Marchiori Araujo, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. Gilvan Marchiori Araujo

    Gilvan Marchiori Araujo New Member

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    Hello everyone


    I'm starting a project of a steering wheel with force feedback, help me with the components I'm studying, what do you guys think? I want an 8 ~ 12nm ffb

    Dc motor
    Encoder
    BTS7960
    Driver (Why do some use 2?)
    Arduino Leonardo R3 Pulleys 1:?
    belt
    F1 steering wheel, with at least 18 buttons, will I need another correct controller card? which do you indicate in this case? thank you all
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    dc motor = 24v 100w 3000rpm
    Encoder = 600pr

    Im forgot this
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    I am brazilian.. I will search servo motor for selling, maybe a direct drive will be more interesting

    What you think... This project direct drive how.much +/- costs to do?
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    I have no knowledge on stepper ffb wheel... only direct drives, sorry. :)
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    There's two main routes that you can go down, depending on the motor.
    Either a brushed motor or brushless. At the moment, using a brushless motor will be the more expensive route but ffb will probably feel better.
    I made my wheel with a brushed motor.

    I used the components below:-

    DC motor : MY1020 24v 500w

    Motor driver: 1x Cytron 30a driver (instead of 2x bts)
    Micro controller : Arduino Leonardo

    Pulleys: HTD 5m pulley and belt. (4:1 rato, roughly)

    With that setup, I run the wheel at 30% and that's more than enough.
    2x bts drivers are used, as the 1x can't handle much current. But I find that they fail very easily, so use a Cytron driver, which seems to be a lot better.
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    @Chris Malcolm : interesting! can you share some pictures?
    or do you have a dedicated post about your wheel?
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    [QUOTE = "Chris Malcolm, post: 188514, membro: 32924"] Há duas rotas principais que você pode percorrer, dependendo do motor.
    Um motor escovado ou sem escova. No momento, o uso de um motor sem escova será a rota mais cara, mas o ffb provavelmente se sentirá melhor.
    Fiz minha roda com um motor escovado.

    Eu usei os componentes abaixo: -

    Motor DC: MY1020 24v 500w

    Motorista: 1x motorista Cytron 30a (em vez de 2x bts)
    Microcontrolador: Arduino Leonardo

    Polias: Polia e correia HTD de 5m. (4: 1 rato, aproximadamente)

    Com essa configuração, eu corro o volante em 30% e isso é mais do que suficiente.
    Drivers de 2x bts são usados, pois o 1x não suporta muita corrente. Mas acho que eles falham com muita facilidade, portanto, use um driver Cytron, que parece muito melhor. [/ QUOTE]

    thankyou for information

    Please show us prints,photos of your project... How these drive works and his wirings thx
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    Yeah Gilvan, I can make a post, showing step by step how I did my build. Probably after Christmas though.

    If you have the patience, maybe wait until the hoverboard build has been finalized by the guys in the direct drive forum. It uses a brushless motor, which should provide a smoother feel and better ffb. I presume it won't be much more expensive.
    I think you will just have to wait a few months before they developed things, so that the average person can build it. :)
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    sorry, i dont understood, what is "hoverboard"
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    o pretty nice !!


    I will take engineering holidays, this week start planning my project ... I can wait yes, for now I will provide the mechanical part, please do not let the topic die, we will always talk! thank you guys
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    how much nm of torque ? These motors get
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    I have a idea... Look

    Stepmotor nema 23 1.5nm

    Pulley and belt 1;4 ratio

    Arduino leonardo
    Bts7960
    Encoder 600pr ( i dont need this right? Stepmotor will be give me posicion)

    Its a good idea?
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    I don't think there are any step by step methods on making a wheel with a stepper motor. They have been made by some people but there aren't any complete guides on how to do it.


    I think the first thing you need to decide is how much you want to spend on the electronics. This will depend on if you want a brushed motor or brushless motor.
    The brushed motor build will be cheaper, mainly because they are simpler to control. But it might not feel so good, as it will be "notchy". I can't feel it too much, so it doesn't matter to me. The cost of the electronics, including the motor, would be about £160. If you used the same as me.

    The brushless motor build will be more expensive but will should feel a lot better. It will also be direct drive. You would generally need to buy most of the electronics from Granite Devices. This might cost you around £600 for the electronics, including the motor.

    As far as I can see, there aren't any other cheaper brushless motor builds that have been completed yet.
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