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90ZYT-155-12-MCP4-60:1 and JRK 12V12

Discussion in 'Motor actuators and drivers' started by gigi, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. gigi

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    For 4 motors are necessary 2 sabertooth 2x32 and 2 arduino uno? It's ok also arduino uno clone?
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    If there isn't too much load (weight) onto the lever (like TL) the jrks should do the job.
    yes, yes and yes
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    Nah, the JRK is still tripping out on the TL because I am using one of my big 5300RPM motors. I switched my 2DOF motors to 4300RPM motors which are sort of okay with the JRK's but I would like to swap all the motors out for 5300RPM ones with something like a couple of Sabertooth.
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    In this case two SaberTooths are a lot of money...You can just use a second Syren if you only need to drive one motor - @BlazinH could share more information here ;)
    As I already mentioned the Sabertooth (and I assume also the Syrens) are really dead easy to use
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    I attached the complete datasheet of ZYT90-155-12-mcp4 60:1 in wich is clear specify 40A peak current....I suppose really too much for Jrk 12V12. The file show Gh1466 version (5100 rpm) - my motors are GH1467 version (4000rpm) but this I think not change the current peak of 40A.
    ....I suppose really too much for Jrk 12V12

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    Now in my bag I have:

    - 4 x ZYT90-155-12-MCP4 60:1 180W 23A nominal - 40A peak

    - 2 x ZYT80- -12-MCP4 50:1 150W 15A nominal - ___A peak (less than 30A)

    - 4 x JRK 12V12 (2 new unpacked - 2 just assembled and tested)

    My options are:

    1) Use 2 ZYT90 for pitch/roll - necessary buy buy 1 sabertooth 2x32 + arduino uno - Use 2 ZYT80 (1 for surge

    and 1 for TL with 2 Jrk 12V12. Items to buy: 1 sabertooth 2x32+ a arduino uno. Items to sell: 2 Jrk 12v12 and

    2 ZYT90

    2) Use 4 zyt90 (2 for for pitch/roll, 1 for surge and 1 for TL). Items to buy: 2 sabertooth 2x32 and 2 arduino

    uno. Items to sell: 4 Jrk12v12 and 2 ZYT80 motors
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    Ciao Gigi!

    Hi gigi! If I understand well, you can use MCP4 with jrk by reducing power sent to motors, like @Blame73 did.
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    Hi Mirko. The problem is not mcp4 gearbox but the ZYT90-155-12 motor. This motor have a coninuos current of 23A and a peak current of 40A.... highter than 30A that Jrk can support .
    Earobby wrote: "I run this setting at 0 , if your communication (usb) is a little poor having the pid period too low will cause an error too. I set pid period at 20 and unlimited on amps (0) , no errors"
    Erwan960 suggest to set in pololu the max current at 30A in pololy utility.
    Now I don't really understand wiche is the best solution.
    See here the discussion https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/diy-2dof-simulator.4793/page-16
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    Yes, and what I've said is @Blame73 use well this motor http://www.ebay.it/itm/381920267399 with 23A continuos with JRK... but he must limit the current to avoid damage to JRK.

    Come ti dicevo, ho parlato con Blame73 per chiedergli informazioni: lui utilizza dei motori che assorbono 23A continui con le JRK. Non ha problemi di rottura perchè limita la corrente (attraverso l'utility JRK credo, o comunque attraverso SimTool credo che basti abbassare la percentuale dell'effetto)
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    No, I just lowered the motors power (duty cycle, acceleration, out of range d.c.) in the jrk utility motor tab to around 300 (600 means 100%)
    I tried to limit to 30A or to use 0 (unlimited), no differences.

    The problem is when motors need more power for fast changes (like for a fast movement from min position to max position) they could give 'motor driver errors' cause they don't get all the power they need.