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130v DC pwm ?

Discussion in 'Electronic and hardware generally' started by Gadget999, Feb 2, 2018.

  1. Gadget999

    Gadget999 Well-Known Member

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    what is the correct way to control a 36A load that is 130 V DC?

    is there an off the shelf driver to do this type of job ?
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    Oms known as "Doc6dof"

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    hello i am electronic engineer and can help you giving power electronic schematics for thi kind of control. But are you sure of the values, because 130v x 36v = 4700 W ! it is a lot, how kind of rig do you want to control with such power ?
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    Oms known as "Doc6dof"

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    Hello, to your question :"
    currently i take ac power and convert to to DC then output it through an IGBT and then out though a powerful diode
    The IGBT solution has not been that reliable and i have some customers who keep blowing the igbt board !
    an alternative i used some years ago was a thyristor but this can only be switched every mains cycle and is a slow device
    is there an off the shelf box i can buy that is a igbt solution or perhaps a dc motor driver that could do the job ?
    the igbt i use is this one -- http://uk.farnell.com/fuji-electric/2mbi150u2a-060-50/igbt-dual-module-150a-600v-npt/dp/1689572
    i wonder if the failures are caused by the customer having a welder operate at the same time as the Dynamometer.
    Do you work with control system"

    Here after my answer:
    I do not work with control systems, but I can give you my opinion. In your case, I think the choice of a IGBT is good (less fragile than mosfet, and can be open when you want unlike thyristor). But for a good reliability, several precautions to take into account:
    1)The choice of the component compatible with maximum current/voltage/power (I think your IGBT is even oversized !)
    2)Of course a correct PCB drawing and manufactured (sections, lengths, …)
    3)And very important a strong command on the gate, to avoid to the IGBT to stay too much time in a linear zone (where the power dissipated by its chip is very high). For that, the gate driver has to provide for switching on enough voltage (but under the maximum rating, for example 15V as the maximum is 20, with a 15V zener between gate and emitter to avoid over voltage), with a high dv/dt, and a high current capability (to charge miller capacities). But it has also , but also for switching off it has to decrease enough gate voltage (I think even below 0V), always with a high dv/dt, and also a high current capability (to discharge miller capacities).
    4)To finish warning with EMC, electrical perturbations, … I would add also a transient voltage suppression diode (for example a tranzorb 200V several kW) between the emitter and the collector.
    Normally with all that you have a solid design (IGBT are used in locomotive to switch several thousands kW…).

    I have answer in the forum because some people building a dynamic simulator can be interested if there want to use IGBT to control their motors.
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    if i was building a powerful 6dof i would definitely look at using IGBTs
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