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Question Traction loss implementation (tested in iRacing an ACC)

Discussion in 'SimTools Pro & Entertainment Version' started by Matthias Vodel, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Matthias Vodel

    Matthias Vodel New Member Gold Contributor

    Mar 25, 2019
    - 11Coins
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    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, SCN6, Motion platform, 6DOF

    another question regarding the TL configuration in SimTools. I want to configure a classic TL, which directly indicates the drift angle of the car when loosing grip at the rear axis.

    My problem: within the tested simulators, the extra1 effect does not represent TL only, but combines drift angle with steering angle in the yaw-axis. As a result, my TL actuator at the simulator starts moving when steering in high speed instead of representing drift angle only.

    To solve this issue, I'm using the tuning centre and the deadzone filter feature for this axis. Is this the right way for handling this effect?

    Thanks and kind regards,

  2. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

    Feb 9, 2007
    Computer Technician
    Portland, Oregon - USA
    +3,594 / 10 / -0
    Hi @Matthias Vodel,
    Yes, Exactly!
    Unfortunately, I don't know of any game that gives us a "drift angle" as a direct output from the game itself.
    Therefore it is computed as the difference between the direction the car is heading vs the direction the car is pointing.
    Hope that helps!
    Take care,
  3. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

    Dec 13, 2013
    Owner/Operator- Moxleys Rantals
    Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
    +2,478 / 29 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, 3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    IF you get too greedy on the TL tuning center value it all goes to shi t , AC for example a Value of 18 is a perfect happy medium to allow Full travel on the rig but only when you are maximizing the drift angle and the ability able to maintain said angle. Agreed, wobbling about on the straight away @ 200km/h isn't ideal or proper.

    ACC and Iracing and RF2, all have a very unique TL data that in my 4-5 years with TL have felt very VERY pleasing in the past year or So, Off the top of my head i dont know my TL tuning value aside from AC, but could check in later if i remember to take a peek.

    I really should take a new drift video with the Mod drift cars, Those things are MONSTERs, and the tires never give up the ghost, which is super nice.
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