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Showroom seppels scn5 rig - GERMAN

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by seppel, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. Gelatin

    Gelatin Active Member Gold Contributor

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    I must spend couple of ours to play with advanced setups to understand basics and get some question to ask.
    I'll :)
    I'll try some of other race software to compare the data. You can find a link in my tread about first test with Simtool. Check this out if you're interested in it.
    I'd like to see updated videos about yours by now, if you don't mind :)
  2. Gelatin

    Gelatin Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Allways nice to watch other's SCN5 in work :)
  3. Gelatin

    Gelatin Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Hello Seppel! :)

    How about ur project? Is it goes well?
  4. seppel

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    yea mate, everything is going well. slowly but steady :)

    Updates vom rig. Habe am cockpit das komplette schalt- und handbremspanel umgebaut:
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    soweit so gut, fehlen noch ein paar details...

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  5. Gelatin

    Gelatin Active Member Gold Contributor

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    As me :) Slowly. I need two weeks for my rig's to finish it's rebuilding.
    I almost ready, but I have further work with sec and H shifters, plus handbrake.

    Your rig is getting better and better :)
    You should take some videos from ur rig during action :) I would like that.
    How about SCN5's positions? Their positions are almost 45 deg. It is good? How about your experience and feelings, Are they not pushing too much forward to wheels during braking?
  6. Gelatin

    Gelatin Active Member Gold Contributor

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    I think nobody can make better SCN5's rig and nobody could understand much better that perhaps in the world than the japanies Frex Gp. Anyway they are the founders (I think, but sorry for perhaps I'm not wright...) of this type of rigs, what we use and build DIY at home - Thanks to Simtools.

    Thats why I ask u about SCN5's positions.
    They never use that huge degrees for actuators even for save them. (By the way, I've used japanies actuators for five years and they still work well)



    Ok, they are fanatic and almost aberrant what you can see in the next video as well, but they are genius (UFO's) :)



    So, they use low degrees.
    Have you ever tried less degrees before? I can not try more as yours, because my rig is too short for that...
  7. Gelatin

    Gelatin Active Member Gold Contributor

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    the videos only for demonstrate less degrees during work.
  8. eaorobbie

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    Due to the very low axil loading that the scn5 can support is not recommended to have them at a low angles, this has been the way for years, look at the SimX units that were originally developed here, the frex actuators(chinese rip offs of the scn5) can actually handle more axil loading. If this is not limited under very vast and long movements they tend to span the interal connecting pin between motor and ballscrew as what has happened in the past. Hence we recommend spreading them out and using a dampening system on the base so the vibrations do not cause stress fractures in the body, this happens to the frex units too when loaded with too much weight and working way too hard, lol SimX turns all his units down to 50% (200mm/s).
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    Why do people Do not put Full project

    Leaving some of the details
  10. seppel

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    what details you are missing moon310?
    if i could help you, let me know!!
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    Hallo
    Wie weit bist mit deinen Pedalen ? Hast du es hinbekommen ?
    Grüße Tom
  12. seppel

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    Hi
    Auf die Fertige Version bin ich doch schon recht gespannt. Will mal sehen was die andern DIY Schrauber so auf die Beine stellen. Ich bin wieder mal in der Planung was jetzt am Sinnvollsten ist ? 3 X 40 Zoll Fernseher , DIY Servo Wheel, oder doch lieber eine H-Schaltung < Getriebe umgebaut. evtl. 5scn :)
    Bin mir noch nicht sicher, ich werde aber auch 2014 nichts mehr anfangen dafür aber 100 % 2015 :)

    Viel Erfolg
    Thomas
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    Looks cool, thanks for sharing the pic.
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    Hallo!
    Wirklich toll geworden!

    Ich hätte ein paar Fragen:
    Müssen es GENAU diese RS485 Adapter sein?
    Wie hast du die Zylinder an dem 20x20er Profil befestigt? Hält da nur das rote Gehäuse?
    Ist dir bekannt, ob es einen Treiber gibt, um die Zylinder in C# einzubinden? (Also als "Achsen" zu definieren)

    LG
  16. seppel

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    es gibt für den Anschluß der scn5er auch noch andere adapter. die rs485er sind aber am einfachsten anzuschließen. diese adapter kannst du dir auch selbst zusammenlöten, war mir aber zuviel aufwand.
    die zylinder hab ixh mit nem stahlwinkel in L form befestigt. an der einen Seite die passform für die scn5er ausgeschnitten und auf der anderen seite mit nutsteinen und muttern an den profilen befestigt. sind aber 40x40er aluprofile. die rote Abdeckung is en handelsübliches Lochblech und dient nur der optik. das ganze ist nicht optimal vom gesamten aufbau, hält aber bombenfest.
    zu den treiber kann ich dir nichts sagen. am besten frag google oder schau direkt bei maraiintertec nach.
    lg
    seppel
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    Great build!:thumbs
  18. mikegba

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    Very very nice job ! What kind of pivot do you use under the seat ?
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    thx mike.

    the pivot is from a small digger. i found it on the junkyard.

    best regard
    seppel​
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    Nice Build
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