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[PIMAX] All about the VR headsets

Discussion in 'VR Headsets and Sim Gaming - Virtual Reality' started by Pit, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. Pierre Lalancette

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    I tried to set up the motion compensation with Pimax. Did not work. This is what I wrote on Pimax forum.

    First, many thanks to Pimax to try to add motion compensation to the headset.
    But setting the motion compensation to a controller locks the world to that controller (and its good) but we need to be able to reset the seat position (which we can't, it does nothing).
    Resetting the seat position should move the world to the right position for the headset and use that change of matrices to calculate the offset of the controller.
    The controller is fixed on the rig, if we can't adjust its offset to the world (or being calculated during a seat reset), we can't use it.
    So sad.
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  2. Pierre Lalancette

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    Tested Pimax motion compensation again, this time with assetto corsa. It worked, partially.

    I was able to set the motion compensation tracker (controller) and the reset position works for this game. So far, so good.
    The only problem with it for assetto is that it has to be in the right rotation. If the tracker is rotated, the game will be side way and stay that way even with a seat position reset.
    So, motion compensation is working partially depending of the game. I suspect that Dirt Rally does not work because of revive. But, that’s Pimax expertise now to find out the reason. I’m just experimenting and providing the results.

    Sideways
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    Right
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    Bizarre problem trying this out. I've had the tracker for a while but never used it because motion compensation wasn't in place. Weird problem now, I connect the tracker and everything flips 90 degrees as though I'm lying on my side???? I can't figure out how to reset my position, I don't have vive controllers so I can't navigate in SteamVR easily, my gamepad only works for some controls. Why can't I use my keyboard and mouse ffs...
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    Yes, I am using my second controller to go to the setting and "reset the seat position". I don't know how you can do without.
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    So, it looks like the 8KX will finally be shopping out to backers (I am one) starting 18 Dec 19. Base stations in three to four weeks (Made by Valve). Hand tracking module, New head strap and audio solution shipping in Dec 19. Eye tracking also early next year. Unfortunately there are some issues with their controllers which will not be ready until march next year. There are though options being offered in regard to Valve controllers....Looks interesting- and exciting, must admit, did not think it was ever going to happen.
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  6. Pierre Lalancette

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    I'm participating to the Pimax exchange for your old headset, and I will exchange my Vive for a Pimax. I still nead to send my old headset when I'll get back home. Since I have the 8K, I will probably go for the 5K plus. It`s 2 native résolution, one by eye, if I am not mistaking. It should be quite fast and nice. I hope my budget will permit it. We will see.
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    I think one of the most important announcements to come out of the stream was Pimaxs decision to go open source, this could be a game changer for developing motion cancellation and other things. Really exciting times:D.
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  8. Pierre Lalancette

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    Even that they already included a motion tracking system in their latest Pitool that was working not so bad, but I could not test it much since I was rebulding my rig.
    After listening to the channel, there is a lot I have to reconsider. Like, maybe getting a 8KX. My budget may have some hard times in the few next months.
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    A Pimax firmware update is going to allow 120htz on 5k+ at the smallest 120 degree FOV, see video at 17m 40s.

    Live stream summary by nnll9: https://old.reddit.com/r/Pimax/comments/d8vyvn/complete_summary_of_pimax_day_and_backer_benefits/

    For Retail:

    NEW 8K and RE DEVICES ANNOUNCED!

    • 8KX: $1,299
      • Dual 4K Display (3840x2160 Native rendering for each eye!)
      • 75 Hz
      • Comes with Comfort Kit and Audio Strap
    • 8K+: $999
      • Dual 4K Display (3840x2160 per eye, but upscaling still )
      • “RGB Stripe Matrix LCD”
      • Up to 90Hz
      • Ships October 30th
    • RE Series: “Built like a tank”, just more durable/water resistant for each model, and metallic
    Hand Tracking:

    • Price: $169.95
    • Ships in December to backers
    • USB C Plugs into the bottom, it's made with UltraHaptics (they purchased LeapMotion) and is like the HTC Vive one but a much bigger FOV.
    Eye Tracking

    • Price: $299.95 ($199.95 for backers, not free)
    • Designed by 7Invensun
    • Clip on with internal USB C
    • Ships December 15th
    Modular Audio Strap (finally):

    • Ships in December for $119.95
    • Has apparently really good speakers
    • Rigid and more comfortable.
    Vision Comfort Kit:

    • Ships November 1st
    • Price: $49.95
    • Comes with new Face Guard, Nose Guard for light leakage, and a giant forehead cause.. You know… y'all have 8 heads. (looks pretty great actually sad its not free)
    10 Meter Cable:

    • Price: $99.95 + Shipping
    • That’s right, if 100 ain’t enough for a cable, you gotta pay shipping unlike everything else.
    • Ships in November, available for order soon
    • DP 1.4 and USB 3
    Misc:

    Controller Upgrade Program: There’s 2 options

    Option 1)

    • Pay a small fee and get the Index controllers now (instead of the Sword or Sword Sense) straight from Valve, but it takes 6 weeks to ship. Controllers and Base Stations bundle also translates to a bundle.
    Option 2)

    • Cancel your order, and take your $150 back, and they add $50 (essentially you get $200) to spend on a new 8K headset.
    Headset Upgrade Program:

    • Essentially, you just get a discount on top of all other discounts (backer discount, backer $100 coupon, etc) for the new headsets. You keep the old one.
    Prescription Lens Adapter:

    • You don't need glasses, just pop ur lens into these
    • You can 3D print it or just have them print it for you and send it (They’ll have a form for backers in October)
    Software:

    • Pitool Brainwarp 1.5 with a new 120Hz option that works on the 5K+ (already in final stages, will be out soon) You need to play in Small 130 FOV.
    • Pitool is now open source and has a github (github.com/OpenMAR/pitool) It’s already live with the latest version
    Backer Benefits (free):

    Prescription Lens Adapter:

    • You don't need glasses, just pop ur lens into these
    • You can 3D print it or just have them print it for you and send it (They’ll have a form for backers in October)
    Cooling Fans:

    • Just fill out the form in October and it will ship.
    • USB C powered and 3rd party.
    3 Free Content Pieces (Games):

    • They said we should be getting an email in the next few days.
    • “The Dream Collector” and “The First Class VR”
    • Will be sent as steam codes.
    • 3rd one is still being worked on (and will apparently will be optimized for the swords that they don’t want us to have yet)
    Backer Discounts:

    • Our $100 coupon is here! Sorta… they mentioned when future devices go on sale we can use this coupon on it.
    • 8K+ and 8KX Headsets have backer discounts.
    Oh and I like took pics of everything for ya’ll


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    Quick Review on a pre-production 8K+ , sounds promising - getting hyped on receiving my 8KX :D.

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    I have the vive pro and for the best part run at 200% and with oled screens is more than a grade above any this
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    A bit of a 8KX teaser..

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    Pre-orders for the Pimax 8K+ and 8KX (Full RGB 4K x2 Displays @ 90hz upscaled and 75hz native) are starting, shipping supposedly in October-December.
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    Well I hope I get mine before the Pre-orders :) - I'm expecting late December, if I'm lucky :rolleyes:.
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    I would hope Pimax would cover its very patient Kickstarter backers first, but based on past behavior I would not count on it.
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    Pimax Kickstarter opt-out and HMD upgrade offers:

    PimaxOpt-Out.jpg PimaxOpt-OutB.jpg PimaxOpt-Outc.jpg PimaxOpt-Outd.jpg PimaxOpt-Oute.jpg PimaxOpt-Outf.jpg PimaxOpt-Outg.jpg

    Siliconcover.jpg Silicon Cover.

    Eyetracking.jpg Will be demoed at CES, delivery date still unknown.

    PiToolsUpdate.jpg PiTools improvements (120hz still alpha but available now on the Pimax Forum, not on the download page).

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    Quick work :thumbs - I only just finished watching it :).
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  18. Pierre Lalancette

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    I'm quite disappointed.
    I have a rebate for my the exchange of my Vive, and I cannot use is as a rebate for the update.
    The rebate they offer is the things you let go from the initial kickstarter.
    I'm not impressed.
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    So you have a rebate with Pimax? Have you talked to them directly to see if you can use it?
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    Toward the end of the video they state that there will be some unique individual circumstances not covered by the plethora of options, and that for those people you have to make contact with the,