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New PIMAX 8k (2 x 4k) 200º FOV Headset at CES

Discussion in 'VR Headsets and Sim Gaming - Virtual Reality' started by Javo5, Jan 9, 2017.

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    EDIT: from a reviewer c&p

    Pimax 4k display is 60Hz and has massive ghosting. To top it all off, it is only 1080p upscaled to 4k. The company uses shady marketing and will not deliver fully on its promises or will only "technically" do so, similar to how the "4k" Pimax they sell now can only actually do 1080p upscaled, even though there is no reason they can't use 4k 30Hz or 2k 60Hz natively (because the display really IS 4k). They also can't do 4k 60Hz because someone was dumb enough to suggest they use HDMI 1.4 instead of 2.0 on the HMD.

    There are also minor hardware issues (weird flashes/colors, dead pixels, other minor nuisances).

    Don't hold your breath.
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    Pimax 4k is 2k upscaled to 4k with the new drivers and firmware.
    And you can push 4k60hz in 1.4b hdmi using 4.2.0 chroma sub sampling.
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    From Pimax support: "Our curent prototype is using two HDMI ports, and we're trying move to DP ports for native support"

    Pimax is far from perfect, but at least they try something, and think some problems will be solved with software updates, like the amount of resolution in the last update.
    I hope this will push HTC and OCULUS to introduce new headsets, since at this CES they did not.
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    HTC and OCULUS will be working on new headsets, but new releases are likely a little way off.

    What we have seen at CES is a bunch of upgrades for the Vive, to be released in Q2 2017. I would expect the two remaining quarters in 2017 would be the minimum HTC could get away with as the life span of the new upgrades without alienating the still very niche VR market.

    And there are some significant advances still required for the next significant evolutionary step that will improve the visuals while lowering the entry cost, and that is robust eye tracking and Foveated rendering.

    While there will be huge efforts going on to nail that next evolutionary step there is nothing yet public, let alone consumer ready.

    Third party wireless is already in the wild, albeit in a very limited fashion, and so far are being released as an upgrade, rather than requiring a new HMD release. In many ways that is a good way to test it in the wild.

    Competition wise Oculus has only just released Touch and I would expect the earliest they would likely make noises about a new HMD would be at the next Oculus Connect. There will of course be the Microsoft partner HMDs hitting the market, but as yet no controllers announced, so it is hard to say what impact they may have as a new entry level priced device. There are yet to be some actual independent reviews of their capability, so things are pretty embryonic.

    I could be wrong but I do think 2018 is likely the earliest that the next serious gen 2 Vive is release.

    This is the likely technological trajectory path for Oculus: