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News New Aussi motion sim announced

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by noorbeast, Dec 2, 2014.

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  1. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    A new Australian commercial motion sim has just been announced and is designed to add motion to the existing Next Level static sim frames: http://www.pagnianimports.com.au/racing-simulator-cockpit/next-level-racing-motion-platform.html?utm_source=Pagnian Imports News&utm_campaign=6ccf05f641-Get Ready For Next Level Motion&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_23ab462581-6ccf05f641-338438809&mc_cid=6ccf05f641&mc_eid=9f7fb28e8e

    It is not cheap for a 2DOF seat shaker!
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  2. SilentChill

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    Hahaha $2495 that's ridiculous. Well at least it's another option for people who don't know any better
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  3. SeatTime

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    I'm sure there is a market. Although they seem to be a bit slow for me and sound like big RC servo motors - not really quiet. 'Quality European Manufacturing':)
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    SeatTime, Dec 2, 2014
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    @noorbeast - Just wanted to post that too :)

    Motions looks pretty 'robotic' and somewhat slow, like there's a lot of smoothing filter applied..
    prodigy, Dec 2, 2014
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  5. Blame73

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    $2495 is the pre-order special price! Regular price is just $2995 :grin
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  6. noorbeast

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    Yep it is real expensive for a seat shaker...but then again what commercial simulator isn't :roll

    Guess they think there is a market but I suspect it would be pretty small in the land of OZ.

    It would be interesting to know more detail abut the game support and software, it is very light on detail for an official announcement. I would sure want to know what I was getting for that sort of money.
    noorbeast, Dec 2, 2014
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    Their information is sketchy. They need to make some clarifications imo.
    Sent to the controller? Which controller and from where? They make it sound as if they can extract up to 4000 fps from game titles.

    These specs indicate that it will take 2 seconds for the pitch and roll axis to move from one extreme to the other. In my book that is to slow for a racing simulator.

    What’s that supposed to mean? Well, I guess with movement of 10 degrees per second it should be, "smooth and not jerky", but I don’t know what they mean by, “quite enough for home use.” It sure isn’t fast enough for my liking regardless of the location where I would use it.
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  8. Pit

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    Too expensive and too "smooth" and not precise if you have a look at the synchronization to the motions in comparison with the visuals.

    "Responsive and Powerful system that delivers realistic and smooth movement rather than a Rollercoaster ride" - this is totally bull shit and is called marketing...

    Nevertheless a clean and nice rig for my mother :)
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  9. Nick Moxley

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    Clean setup but yes WAY Too slow, Too Loud and Over the top marketing like all the other commercial units make this just another alternative for people with more money than brains.

    Also Max Power Consumption – 160W seems rather Dinky in comparison to the PSU's we run.
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  10. bsft

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    Anything in Australia is priced high. $3k is about the going rate for a Simx stage 1 kit delivered. So $3k for this is the same deal.
    We pay stupid prices for everything.
    JRKS bought a state away are higher is cost than actually buying from Pololu direct for example.
    Had a look at the video, yes it sounds like big servos, and yes a tad slow in movement, but I will say its good to see another commercial company having a go in this sunburnt country.
    I reckon someone will set up shop with a few of these, and I will go have a look if they are Sydney.
    There are CXC simulators, but they are in WA, other side of the country.
    In Sydney we have 2 dbox and one simx set up places.
    As for power consumption, thats probably input power.
    I tested one of my desk racers under load, it draws about 700 watts maximum. Thats everything, PC, TV, power supplies, etc.
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  11. noorbeast

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    well the USA is 10 times the people of Australia, not to mention the overall market potential in the USA.
    bsft, Dec 8, 2014
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  13. Nick Moxley

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    The ads for this guys company have been PLASTERED ALL over facebook, Every day im seeing a new buddy "like" their giveaway or the 3k motion rip off. Some of the comments are a Joke, But ive set a few people strait so far.
    Nick Moxley, Dec 8, 2014
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  14. bsft

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    I just logged into facebook. Cannot see anything.
    If you wish to "like" something , www.facebook.com/davesmotionracers
    I expect I will be posted a "like" link soon for the pagnian sims.
    The people will ask how good it moves, then I post my videos and show them, etc, etc.

    Oh nevermind, looking at their facebook pages now, might spam it, might not....
    bsft, Dec 8, 2014
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    couldnt help myself, I "liked" the page to start spamming and get replies
    bsft, Dec 8, 2014
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      Pagnian Imports & Next Level Racing      If you look at the new video you will show speed the unit is capable of and we will be making more videos with different games to show this. In the F1 video we wanted to show just how smooth and realistic the platform is and not jerky to put you off your driving
      Like · 7 hours ago

      haha in other words we can't push it too hard or it will break
    SilentChill, Dec 9, 2014
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  17. SilentChill

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    I'm thinking how good of a sim I could build for 2 grand .
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    SilentChill, Dec 9, 2014
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  18. noorbeast

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    It was also unloaded in the video, so nor real test at all.
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  19. bsft

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    I have been hammering them on facebook. They are getting good and bad reviews on the seen video so far.
    I have been helping them slightly by posting videos and pictures on my sims and outlaying what they cost, etc.
    Also, in return I have been explaining to people more how a seat mover works with forces, as quite a few reckon a full frame would be better.
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  20. GIB SimRacing

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    I have to admit that there is one very good thing about this platform. Without hearing about it, I probably wouldn't have come across a post from @Nick Moxley on the AC forum which ultimately got me here and now building a motion sim. :D:D:D

    So their advertising worked.....somehwhat:p
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