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MY first motion Sim + traction Loss

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by crammy, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. crammy

    crammy Active Member Gold Contributor

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    hi Historiker
    im up for all the help i can get with this. Ive come from consoles and never had a gaming pc. i probaly couldnt tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps to be fair lol. i wouldnt mind a link to your post about cards if you dont mind. that titan card is abit steep for me at nearly 1.5 times the price of a 980, unless it is worth it and would get extra time from it. i wouldn't want to not bother now only to feel its needed in a years time.
    I am grateful of this forum and all the help and advice is welcomed. ive got about 2 months from now before its all up and running so will seriously give the pc/graphics some investigation
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    Actually you can, Its called Dynamic Super Resolution or DSR.
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    Sounds shi**y to say, but your picking a HORRIBLE time to build a PC. with Nvidia Pascal and AMD Polaris Right on the horizon. I Honestly suggest you think VERY hard about spending a Gnote on a GPU that will be Significantly Slower once Pascal is released.
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    That is very interesting, thanks for posting it. I read up a bit on it, you can indeed upscale (more like supersampling) a lower res screen (blends the pixels to make them look smoother) but at a slightly higher cost in performance than running a native 2k or 4k monitor.

    A great tool if you have existing 1080p screens. But if you have not yet bought screens from a performance standpoint it would make more sense to start out with the higher res screen.

    I agree with you about being a bad time to buy GPUs though, but then there is always something new right around the corner making our very expensive hardware obsolete.

    Interesting reading:

    http://techreport.com/review/27102/maxwell-dynamic-super-resolution-explored
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    It worked Great on my Old 47" when I ran a single screen, 4k was a bit much for even the 980 Even on a Single screen, So would be out of the question on the current setup. There's also a Wack load of info out there about OC'ing the monitor themselves from swapping out the Driver's to ones from Native 120hz screens to just using a custom resolution/Hz settings and Forcing the monitor to run at what your selecting.
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    hi guys

    Would i be able to use the 4k monitors as a triple screen setup up with the 980 card. Im not really worried about 4k but wanted that size monitor. id be more than happy with 1080p if not blurry or fuzzy. Upgrades can come at a later date. i dont want to spend rediculous amounts on cards at this time as have other commitments but the option is there a couple of years down the line having the monitors allready.

    Ill have a look into that over-clocking nick but im a newbie at the minute so would just like something out of the box and reliable.

    cheers

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    If you do not care about the actual resolution then the 1080p TVs would be much cheaper and get good frame rate from a single high end GPU.
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    I assume i can run the 4k monitors at 1080p. I would rather have the monitors instead of tvs and if i want to upgrade GPU at a later date the option is there.
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    had a play over the weekend and started on sketch up. Obviously i didn't draw the seat but found a model to use. this is what i am hoping to achieve. I haven't put the traction loss on yet or the steering wheel as im nut sure how to draw curved tubes yet lol. Screenshot (1).jpg
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    hi all, the newbie is back again.
    After looking at build threads im contemplating sacking off the above idea and going for the actuator behind the seat idea. you seem to get a lot more throw for little movement. My original basis came from the prosimu rig (sorry for swearing lol) but im now looking into things a lot more. I opted for the easy fabrication route as a beginner. Are there any plans or other options to use what i ordered.
    4no hyperaxis 100
    1no scn 60-150

    seriously thinking i should of gone with motors but it looked daunting for a newbie. I doubt this will be my last sim though

    cheers guys
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    thanks noorbeast
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    some of these these builds are out of this world. everything about them is unreal.
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    Agree, Some member's have spent YEARS building their setup's and wouldn't exactly be feasible to replicate in a couple week's/month's time without THAT exact person doing the build. There's sooo many little thing's you learn on the way down the road that just becomes common sense to the owner/builder of said rig.
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    Ive noticed that now Nick. Ive been reading some of these builds with the problems and alterations on the way through. I think i will just stick to my original plan for now as no doubt ill have issues with what seems like a straight forward build compared to most. Im looking forward to getting my project underway. Ive got at least 3 weeks i guess to wait for my actuators and then i'm at the nurburgring for a long weekend so fabrication probably wont start until mid to late April. I think once i have built my first and have a better undersdtanding of things, i will come up with another design using the same equipment.
    Got to say there is a hell of a lot of info on this forum
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    Be patient with us crammy, and we'll get you up and running. Fear not. :cheers
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    thanks Nick. Looking forward to it. Its nice to have a helpful community that are willing to donate there help, advice and time for free. this is the reason i paid my premium access. I may not be able to give advice yet but would like to help and contribute as much as possible. hopefully many happy years ahead
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    Hi guys
    As explained before im not a gaming pc person as from consoles, so trying to get my head around things is quite a mission. I was going to have to build a PC from scratch but would like to be up and running ASAP. The computer in my office at home has an AMD fx 8300 8 core 3.6ghz processor. If i bought a strix 980 ti would this work for most games at 1080p on 3 screens for now. I would like to build a hi end PC but one thing at a time and if i can use this for now that would be great. Its a minefield out there and most seem to use i5 or i7
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    Crammy, that CPU should be fine for gaming but you need to make sure that the PC itself can house and power the GTX 98oti. The power supply in most business PCs is pretty weak, check to see that it is a 450watt at least (most would recommend larger but 450watt should be fine), then make sure the motherboard has a PCI-e 2.0 (or 3.0) slot for the card to fit into. Then make sure that there is enough room to physically install such a large card in the case. Many business PC cases are very slim or the motherboards are configured in such a was as to have other components in the way,like the hard drive bays.

    Good luck, and let us know.
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    Thanks Historiker. Ill have a check when home tonight. I have looked online today and the card is huge which is something i didn't expect. what would you say the minimum card is i could get away with for now if this one is too large. i'm happy for 3 x 1080p for now.