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Showroom My 3 DOF seat mover + GS-4 + Simvibe

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Avenga76, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. Archie

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    very cool project and very professional looking rig.
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    looks really good.
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    Hey, I have been out of the country for a while so I have been a bit slack on posting updates. I have a few things that I have finished off, the main one is my new handbrake. I have been testing the new DSD hydraulic handbrake.

    I have recorded a few videos.

    Here is my rig in Dirt Rally with the CV1, tell me what you think of my rear traction loss, it is a blast to drive.



    And here is a review of my new handbrake.



    I will do a full post over the weekend with all the mods I have done and my finished handbrake/flight stick mount.

    I am also starting work on a speed based fan project based on the code that @SilentChill and others have done.
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    Update time!!!

    I finished my handbrake/flight stick mount. It works really well, I just need to undo the one bolt and slide the pin out then swap over the flight stick and handbrake. Takes less than 30 seconds.

    I'll start with the flight stick.

    I wrapped the PVC in vinyl carbon fibre wrap, I need to leave the bottom bare so it will slide in to the PVC coupler on my rig.

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    Here is the flight stick installed on the rig, you will see the silver turned metal knob near the bottom, that is the quick release bolt.

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    On the front side I have made a little support bracket for the quick release bolt.

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    Here is the quick release bolt when taken out of the rig, the support bracket on the right hand side of the bolt is welded on so it won't move while I am tightening it, I don't need any tools, just do it up by hand because the turned metal knob is really grippy.

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    Next up is my new DSD type 3 handbrake. I was lucky enough to be able to test the first one off the assembly line. The handbrake is massive. You can see it in action and a review of it in the above post.

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    I had to make a mounting plate for the top of my PVC so I could bolt up my handbrake.

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    I finished the carbon wrap the same as the flight stick.

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    It looks pretty nice close up.

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    Here is the handbrake installed, you can see the two bolts on the side, that is where the controller box is mounted inside the PVC tube.

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    Here is the controller box. I just mounted it on some rubber standoffs, the USB just plugs in to the USB extension lead I have in the base of the quick release.

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    Handbrake in relation to the shifter and wheel

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  6. Avenga76

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    Another little update. I have got the first parts for my next project. A speed sensitive wind generator.

    I will be running them off SimTools using an Arduino and a Monster Moto driver based off of code that @SilentChill and other had made.

    I have the electronics on order, I ordered them off ebay so they will take a while to get here. I was able to order my fans locally so they came today. I am using two 4" inline blowers. They are 270CFM so hopefully that should be enough, if not I can add some more. They were only $40NZD each ($28 USD) so they are cheap as. I hooked them up to my batteries on my simulator and they put out a ton of air.

    These will serve a dual purpose, firstly immersion for wheel wheel cars and secondly for cooling because my motion simulator and the rift gets pretty warm.

    Here are some photos of the blowers.

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    The one on the left is the intake side and the one on the right is the exhaust side.

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    They are 12V Seaflo in-line blowers, they are designed as a bilge blower for boats. It will be interesting to see if they work well for my project.

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    They put out 270CFM each and draw 6A, that is no problem for me because I will be running them off my batteries on my motion simulator

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    Here is the little blurb on the box

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    Hey guys, I just filmed a little walk around tour of my rig

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    Avenga...
    Do you mind sharing , how many MM thick steel did you use for your motor mounts?
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    Hi Avenga76,
    First thing I want to say is CONGRATS for this sim you built. It was a real joy to read through this post and see the evolution of your original 2dof to the actual 2dof+traction loss+VR+so many add-ons (flight simulator joystick, handbrake, pedals, driving wheels, .....) Wow, you have in your sim most of the add-ons many of us dream about! You are a lucky man!
    It helped me to see how things need to be done and what can be achieved. Since it matched the idea I had about starting with a 2dof and then add traction loss and VR I was lucky to find your proyect. You know there is so much info in x-sim web and I am not an expert in physics neither electronics, welding, etc. Also I am new to adding movement to my sim so the learning curve gets steeper.
    I still have a long way in front of me to build my sim because reading your post may give the impression of things being easy, but I know how difficult it really is (from building my actual sim with no motion). For example I do not have access to skilled people like you with so many tools available (I love the water cutting hand made parts).
    Anyway, I am facing a challange and I am willing to fullfill it with succes so I want to plan everything carefully. Therefore I have 2 questions for you:
    -can you post a link to the 4300rpm motors you are using now?
    -maybe I missed it but I didn´t see a diagramm of your structure (showing lentgh of tubes and angles), do you actually have any sketches? In case you have some, I would really appreciate if you could share them with me.
    As I said, enjoy your sim since it is a marvelous one and a reference for many of us.
    Rgds.
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    Thanks.

    It does make it a lot easier having skilled people to help and the right tools, I love the water jet cutter, by far my favourite tool. And you are right, the photos probably make it look easier than it really is, but once you get stuck in to it then it isn't that bad. When you look at all the other cool projects on this site there is no end of creatively and ideas.

    To answer your questions.

    I get my motors from a local distributor here in New Zealand http://www.bgts.co.nz/styled-2/styled-10/index.html

    He has the bigger 5300 ones listed but the 4300RPM ones were some that he got in specially for me. It would probably be a lot easier for you to find a distributor from Europe.

    I never really did any diagrams, I just drew it all on paper then we just marked it all out on the floor then built it off that.

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    Thx Avenga76, I will have a look at these pics!.
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    Hi Avenga,
    I have to say, really really nice build.
    I do have a GS-4 seat as well, but stand alone. I am fiddling around with the parameter settings - can you share yours? I think I need a starting point, I feel a bit lost. Thank you.
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    Where did you order these from the states?
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    Looking to DIY a g seat. How wide is the seat where you sit in inches? 16? 17?
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    Amazing rig mate, I'm new around here so hope I'm not being annoying. I am looking to do a DIY GS-4, but only have enough money to do one thing at a time, (buying new racing equipment, real life, DIY sim tools projects) I am currently running a stock G27 on an Obutto Ozone. Do you use any of your old sim racing gear eg. your Fanatec V1/V2 base and rim that you used to use? If not I could be in the market ;)
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    Hallo,
    What you wrote about jrk 12v12 and motors that have more than 4000rpm is really interesting.
    I've just bought n.4 of these motors http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=112274886735
    As you can see Voltage: 12V,Current: 23A,Speed: 65RPM,Torque: 15Nm,Peak Torque: 30Nm
    The motor speed should be 3900rpm (65rmp at gearbox X 60 (gearbox reduction). I'm not sure but the power of these motors should be ZYT90 should be 0,4 Kw . Do you think i can control them with jrk12v12. If yes can you please suggest me the best setting in jrk utilities?
    thanks
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    Thank you noorbeast
    Always present and attentive, a guarantee for everyone in this forum! Really thanks for your support.
    Just after my post I received from my ebay seller the correct datasheet of motors (see attached pdf file).
    My motors is ZYT90-155 12V but the seller wrote me that have the same spec of ZYT90-154. This mean power 12v - power 180w rpm 4200rpm+-10% - output torque 0,4 N.m. Current 23A.
    I read the video setting guide. The problem is that the italian translator is not quite accurate and before burn my jrk I prefer ask a support here.

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