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Model MINI Micro Servo S9 SG90 Simulator 3DOF

Discussion in 'New users start here - FAQ' started by Joqueson, Jul 19, 2022.

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  1. First, I want to congratulate you for the excellent work

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  1. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    The best motor depends both on design and also availability, as that varies depending on where you are geographically located in the world.

    Have a play with SimCalc, that will help you get your head around the tradeoffs between design Vs physics and what motor specs will likely be needed to drive a given design at a desired performance level: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...e-linear-speed-and-forces-of-your-design.270/
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  2. Joqueson

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    1 - Primeiro Lugar.jpg

    Thank you Noobeste!

    I'm thinking of buying this gearmotor.
    90ZY-24-350W 10.7 3000 18 3600 2 350

    My Platform is a little heavy.
    So I believe that this Gearmotor would be enough.

    Could you tell me which Gearmotor you are using on your Platform???

    I need detailed information.

    Thanks for all possible help.

    5 - Quarto Lugar.jpg

    Attached Files:

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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    I am in Australia and we have easy access to DC motors via Motion Dynamics:

    Mine is a compact rig so needs lots of torque, I use specs very close to Model # 15:

    [​IMG]
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    6 - Sexto Lugar.jpg


    Thanks Noobest, for this table.

    I can get any of these Gearmotors Importing to my country Brazil.

    I still have doubts which gearmotor I should buy.

    Please I need you to help me make the right decision.

    As I told you.

    Mine will be a Compact device, so I believe I will need a lot of torque, just like your Simulator.

    I'm in doubt between (8, 16, 18 or 20)

    I am sending you a Photograph of your Table with a red arrow, indicating what I intend to buy from these Gearmotors.

    Which do you think would be the best?
    (8, 16, 18 or 20)

    Or can you tell me another number from this table?

    Thank you very much Noobest for your help.
    Joqueson, Aug 9, 2022
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    As per previous advice you can use SimCalc to help evaluate your design and required motor choice: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...-sg90-simulator-3dof.17201/page-2#post-230593

    If using 24v make sure you select a suitable control board.

    From those you have selected without knowing the actual design parameters I can only guess, and that is likely 16, unless the top frame mass is heavy, in which case you may need to consider 20.

    Importing heavy gear motors is pretty expensive, so be mindful of considering all costs before committing.
    noorbeast, Aug 10, 2022
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    Hi Noobest.

    I'm looking for the best 24volt gearmotor with the highest Torque and Output
    Speed possible in my country Brazil.

    I found this model of 24volt, 250Watts and 12 Amper Reducer Motor.

    It has all these features and settings

    Please I need you to check the settings of this 24volt, 250Watt and 12 Amper gearmotor.

    I hope that this Gearmotor is close to the settings of your Gearmotor, referring to your Table, which you sent me.

    Tabale de Roque e RPM - Noobest1.jpeg

    I am sending you an Image of the Reducer Motor of 24 volts, 250 Watts and 12 Amper

    Motos Encontrado em São Paulo.jpeg

    Here is all the descriptions and configurations of this 24volt, 250Watt and 12 Amper Geared Motor.

    1 - Motor Input Speed in RPM.
    (3,300 RPM)

    2 - Gearbox Output Speed.
    (40 RMP)

    3 - Thickness of the Gearbox Shaft.
    (Diameter 18 mm)

    4 - Gearbox Output Torque.
    For Output speed at 40 RPM the Torque is equal to (30 Nm)

    5 - Motor Voltage:
    (24V voltage)

    6 - Engine Power in Watts.
    (250W)

    7 - Motor Amperage.
    (12A)

    This Gearmotor, I found here on my own more Pais Brasil, the price is very good.
    I'm asking you for help.

    I need you to confirm if these Gearmotor settings are good for me to deploy on my 3DOF Platform.

    Thank you very much for all your help and compression.
    Joqueson, Aug 30, 2022
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    I have no experience with that particular motor, nor am I sure what specific design parameters you intend using, hence the previous advice to use SimCalc to model your design and check motor requirements.

    For Output speed at 40 RPM, on the motor specs you gave, the Torque at 30 Nm is about half what I would have expected compared to what I use, given the stated motor speed and output speed.
    noorbeast, Aug 30, 2022
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    This link, and a video as an example of the 3DOF Platform that I intend to make.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EraejMJqmnGT8J8ftvfvryzSACjMTShr/view?usp=sharing

    I hope this video will help you understand better the model I intend to make.

    Thanks for all the help and information Noobest, however I didn't find any Gearmotor here in (Brazil).

    with the same characteristics of your Gearmotor which is:
    Your Redurora Box 1:60
    Input Speed: 3200 RPM
    Gearbox Output Speed 54 RPM
    Your Motor Voltage: 24Volts.
    Amperage of your Motor 13Amper
    Power of your Motor 320Watts
    Torque of your Motor (60Nm), according to the Technicians here in Brazil, states that this is impossible at this Torque of (60Nm).

    I don't know how I'm going to solve this problem.

    thank you in advance for your help.
    Joqueson, Aug 30, 2022
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    This link, and a video as an example of the 3DOF Platform that I intend to make.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EraejMJqmnGT8J8ftvfvryzSACjMTShr/view?usp=sharing

    I hope this video will help you understand better the model I intend to make.

    Thanks for all the help and information Noobest, however I didn't find any Gearmotor here in (Brazil).

    with the same characteristics of your Gearmotor which is:
    Your 60:1 Reducer Box
    Input Speed: 3200 RPM
    Gearbox Output Speed 54 RPM
    Your Motor Voltage: 24Volts.
    Amperage of your Motor 13Amper
    Power of your Motor 320Watts
    Torque of your Motor (60Nm), according to the Technicians here in Brazil, states that this is impossible at this Torque of (60Nm).

    I don't know how I'm going to solve this problem.

    thank you in advance for your help.
    Joqueson, Aug 30, 2022
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    Secondhand electric wheelchair motors may be a good choice, depending on the cost in Brazil.
    noorbeast, Aug 31, 2022
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    Hi Noobest.

    I found this other Gearmotor here in Brazil.

    I am sending you a Photo of the Gearmotor.
    Motoredutor 24v DC Alta Potencia 500w 25A - Nacional.jpg

    According to the Seller, this Gearmotor has all these characteristics and configurations.

    I am sending you this information to know from you if this Gearmotor is close to the characteristics of your Gearmotor.

    1 - Motor Input Speed in RPM.
    (2800 RPM)

    2 - Gearbox Output Speed.
    (46 RPM)

    3 - Thickness of the Gearbox Shaft.
    (25mm)

    4 - Gearbox Output Torque.
    (100 Nm) According to the Seller.

    5 - Motor Voltage
    (24volts)

    6 - Motor Power in Watts:
    (500 Watts).

    7 - Motor Amperage.
    (25 A)

    8 - Reduction Box:
    (60:1)

    Thank you for your kindness and understanding.

    I need to be sure from you, if this Gearmotor is really great for my Project.

    Thank you very much.
    Joqueson, Sep 2, 2022
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    hello, i have the same problem, can you tell me which parts you fixed on arduino?
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    rasim, Sep 15, 2022
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  13. noorbeast

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    If you have a problem please start a thread specific to that problem and detail hardware and settings used.
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    ok i will do what you say when i get out of work
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