1. Do not share user accounts! Any account that is shared by another person will be blocked and closed. This means: we will close not only the account that is shared, but also the main account of the user who uses another person's account. We have the ability to detect account sharing, so please do not try to cheat the system. This action will take place on 04/18/2023. Read all forum rules.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. For downloading SimTools plugins you need a Download Package. Get it with virtual coins that you receive for forum activity or Buy Download Package - We have a zero Spam tolerance so read our forum rules first.

    Buy Now a Download Plan!
  3. Do not try to cheat our system and do not post an unnecessary amount of useless posts only to earn credits here. We have a zero spam tolerance policy and this will cause a ban of your user account. Otherwise we wish you a pleasant stay here! Read the forum rules
  4. We have a few rules which you need to read and accept before posting anything here! Following these rules will keep the forum clean and your stay pleasant. Do not follow these rules can lead to permanent exclusion from this website: Read the forum rules.
    Are you a company? Read our company rules

Modding camera files in F1 2010

Discussion in 'Archived information' started by bleco, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. LearnDriver

    LearnDriver New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    19
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Balance:
    0Coins
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    No idea if you guys already know, but MasterYoda's Camera XML is featured on VirtualR: http://www.virtualr.net/f1-2010-camera-mods-released/ hence it's been downloaded 2500+ times today :p
  2. bleco

    bleco Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2010
    Messages:
    363
    Occupation:
    IT Problem Coordinator
    Location:
    Montréal, Canada
    Balance:
    258Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters


    Pffff.... :lol: Hey give credit to where it's due!! (me!! :mug1: )


    Bleco
  3. egoexpress

    egoexpress Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    3,839
    Location:
    Germany - Frankfurt/M
    Balance:
    421Coins
    Ratings:
    +7 / 1 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    I agree ;D
  4. MasterYoda

    MasterYoda Active Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2008
    Messages:
    338
    Location:
    Portland/USA
    Balance:
    322Coins
    Ratings:
    +40 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, SCN5
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    Hey! I gave, it is on my comments there and also on my video! :p

    I think they choose my file because it is for a single monitor.

    They are linking straight to the file here.
  5. MasterYoda

    MasterYoda Active Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2008
    Messages:
    338
    Location:
    Portland/USA
    Balance:
    322Coins
    Ratings:
    +40 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, SCN5
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    You completely missed the point...

    .You just forgot that there is nothing real with a 45deg angle and single screen.
    .You don't have needed viewing references to drive properly.
    .There is no speed feeling it your side views are blocked.
    .You can crash on the cars beside you because you don't see them.
    .You don't see the apexes.
    .There are other options for cams, like T-Cam, Chase, etc... They are free to chose, so what is the reason to say this is cheating if the driving view is free to chose from? :p

    You should drive your car with a 45 deg. FOV on the streets and then come back to tell us what happened! :lol:

    Cheers,

    MY
  6. egoexpress

    egoexpress Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    3,839
    Location:
    Germany - Frankfurt/M
    Balance:
    421Coins
    Ratings:
    +7 / 1 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    I like it that way :thbup:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpLjvkh4hQE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tEcBj8EGk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3flNaMTFvw

    For console/gamepad arcade gamers, because it is easier to drive than real visor-view :D
    Imo, everything but visor-view is cheating.

    TrackIR should help to look to the apex.

    Regards
  7. Fahim

    Fahim Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    424
    Balance:
    245Coins
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    oh my god. this game has real life imagery graphics!!!!
  8. ledfoot

    ledfoot Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2009
    Messages:
    369
    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    Balance:
    21Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
  9. Fahim

    Fahim Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    424
    Balance:
    245Coins
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    I;ve just ordered gtx480. Is the dx11 overrated? Is there huge difference in the F1 ledfoot between dx11 and dx9?
  10. LearnDriver

    LearnDriver New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    19
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Balance:
    0Coins
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    Oh, no that's not what I meant! All I meant to say is that they were linking to the XML with MasterYoda's settings.
    I know you're the one who invented it (or atleast brought it to our attention):p
  11. bleco

    bleco Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2010
    Messages:
    363
    Occupation:
    IT Problem Coordinator
    Location:
    Montréal, Canada
    Balance:
    258Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    Hey don't worry, I was just joking! And I did not create this tool. I found it on the web when trying to mod dirt 2 cams. :)


    Bleco
  12. MasterYoda

    MasterYoda Active Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2008
    Messages:
    338
    Location:
    Portland/USA
    Balance:
    322Coins
    Ratings:
    +40 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, SCN5
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters

    Hey Brother,

    You know these videos prove NOTHING, right? This is just a joke from you, right?
    You know very well these cameras have low FOV, probably less than 40 deg.
    Hum... Maybe the developers of the game don't know that either and reproduced what they saw in these videos? LOL

    The drivers actually see about 3x that FOV! ;-)

    Cheers,

    MY


  13. ledfoot

    ledfoot Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2009
    Messages:
    369
    Occupation:
    IT Manager
    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    Balance:
    21Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    I wouldn't say it's a HUGE difference but there are certain effects that are much nicer with dx11 enabled. for instance, racing in heavy rain, you can see more detailed water on the tires as well as puddles of water on the track which look more realistic with dx11 than with dx9.

    ....Mike
  14. egoexpress

    egoexpress Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    3,839
    Location:
    Germany - Frankfurt/M
    Balance:
    421Coins
    Ratings:
    +7 / 1 / -0
    @Masteryoda

    Of course the driver' FOV is much larger than in the videos. I am not arguing about that.
    I just want to point out, that a cam position >30cm above the drivers head is not realistic, as long as you aren't a giraffe.

    Perhaps you could get a more realistic view for tripple screens if you'd hoover the cam view just a little further to the wheel, to get rid of the chassis which blocks the view to the sides, but keep the cam as low as by default.

    The videos show that the drivers hands block the drivers view when driving sharp corners. If placing the cam 30cm above the drivers head, you dont have that problem for sure. But is is realistic then?
    And of course you can see more of the track in front of your car with an elevated cam position, but is it realistic?

    That Anthony Davidson guy in their dev team has been driver in the F1 world championship, so I guess he should know how the view behind a F1 wheel looks like.

    Regards
  15. Fahim

    Fahim Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    424
    Balance:
    245Coins
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    Mike,

    do you use the in game graphic settings or do you override it from nvidia control panel?

    Also I'm using a steam version.
  16. bleco

    bleco Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2010
    Messages:
    363
    Occupation:
    IT Problem Coordinator
    Location:
    Montréal, Canada
    Balance:
    258Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    Re: Xsim compatible with f1 2010 BY codemasters


    Hi Egoexpress,

    I like these FOV pretty much and I am actualy using a very similar one in IRacing which I think have the best cam positions of current available sims. But I don't think it's possible to reproduce it in F1 2010. I tried a lot of cam settings and could not achieve to reproduce this kind of FOV. Also, I agree that using some of the alternate FOV (girafe style :D ) on projectors setup should be a little weird because the bottom of your image is much more near to the ground. But on typical 3x lcd setups where the monitors are elevated, it's very cool ...

    Anyway adjust it to your own taste... that's why I shared the tool ... :)


    Here are other cams I am working on... (rename to camera.xlm)


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]



    Bleco

    Attached Files:

  17. bleco

    bleco Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2010
    Messages:
    363
    Occupation:
    IT Problem Coordinator
    Location:
    Montréal, Canada
    Balance:
    258Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    If your hardware can support dx11 at near 50-60fps then it should blast away dx9 visuals. But in my case I actually find that the visuals are prettier on dx9 with settings maxed out and 4xAA because it's much smoother... (dx9@48-54fps and dx11@35-40)



    Bleco
  18. Fahim

    Fahim Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    424
    Balance:
    245Coins
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    yes bleco, i know what you mean.

    Do you use nvidia control panel to force the graphics on the game or do you set the graphics withint the game.
  19. bleco

    bleco Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2010
    Messages:
    363
    Occupation:
    IT Problem Coordinator
    Location:
    Montréal, Canada
    Balance:
    258Coins
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Ati uses Catalyst control center ... not Nvidia control pannel ... :)

    And I set up graphics in game but dx9-11 must be set in hardware config file under
    Documents\My Games\FormulaOne\hardwaresettings\hardware_settings_config.xml

    Remind that dx11 is still not officially supported in F1 2010.


    Bleco
  20. Fahim

    Fahim Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    424
    Balance:
    245Coins
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    Can I ask for frames per second you get? are you getting over 60