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looking for a short cut to ready built actuators!

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by Jerry Atrick, Jun 7, 2018.

  1. Jerry Atrick

    Jerry Atrick this is my sim Gold Contributor

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    Hi all, maybe this is not for all; however I thought the info maybe useful.

    Ive been scouring AC and DC motors to use I my impending mistakes for this hexapod thingy, motor after motor for the last 4 nights burning the midnight oil as it were, and then I came across this

    https://hnlunyi.en.alibaba.com/prod...m=a2700.icbuShop.prewdfa4cf.67.121d78a1gIjDhW

    So something maybe useful to some of you here.

    As for me I've had 42 quotes for motor systems and frankly I'm still none the wiser; what does that tell you:blush

    Jerry
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    i sent an enquiry - they look pretty good

    i got sent a video - i will try and upload it
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    Gadget999 Well-Known Member

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    video attached

    they can supply the base plates also

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  4. Jerry Atrick

    Jerry Atrick this is my sim Gold Contributor

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    Hi Gadget, they are quoting for a system now, I will fill you in when finalised

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    Hi i see they use leadscrews with3000 and 2400 rpm, this means normaly a low duty cycle.
    A ballscrew is rolling a leadscrew is slidding this create heat and lowers duty cycle,how higher te rpm are the more rest he need to coul douwn
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    so the price is in - basically everything is included to build a 6dof platform with top and bottom plates and hinges

    the actuators are supplied with servo drivers

    DX6-1000-DH65-S500-P2 6DOF,65mm,Foldback Type, 500mm Stroke,With Plate up and bottom Include joint hinges,Accoridng to Drawing

    Servo Driver:SV-DA200-0R7-2-E 750W,220V,Pulse Type Servo Motor:SV-ML08-0R7G-2-1A0 750W,2500-line incremental,Without Brake 3m Power Cable:DAML-075-03-AB 3m Encoder Cable:DBEL-15-03-A


    the actuators are 450 kg each and 250mm/s iirc

    total cost USD 8,666.00

    approx 6500 GBP

    or 7400 Euro

    basically a complete 6dof with actuators and servo drivers

    what do people think - is this a good price compared to what it costs to build something similar ?
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    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    I got quote for the platform on the photo for $5500, but stripped down with only metal frame, servomotor actuators 750w - 400mm stroke - 500mm/s and 750w servo drives. (Factory price...),

    1-1F10G53512D3.jpg
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    This is something they already manufacture and is a pretty good deal when you think about it.

    Are you going ahead ?
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    Hi Gadget, Yes a good deal if you have US dollars, unfortunately I have Australian Pecos, and by the time you add shipping its out of the question!!:(

    Jerry
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    I am not sure it is possible to build this type of sim diy for less !
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    I enjoy the building process and could do this for less, but many do not have the spare time and skill/equipment needed to build these DIY. - So is it a good price - for many I would think yes.
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  12. Jerry Atrick

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    Hi all, in my quest for BLDC motors, from a Manufacturer in Taiwan I came across this " yes someone else whom likes 6DOF "



    Jerry
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    Have you contacted them for prices etc ?
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    He is a member of this site ;), was posting here quite often, but may have run into some issues, as he has not posted here for quite some time. Search through the old Commercial threads. Look for 'Universal 6DOF Recessed Simulator'. Edit it's on page two.
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    If you want to see his site google with insecta tech
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    Jerry Atrick this is my sim Gold Contributor

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    Hi all No prices and No reply:rolleyes:

    Maybe some issues like SeatTime suggested.

    Jerry
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    I remember that for a while he did have pricing for each system on his website. From experience, I know its not easy to bringing a product to market, especially something as complex as this. Just so much that can go wrong.
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    I have been keeping a Google spread sheet to calculate how much it costs for some of the 6dof project threads on this forum. It made me believe that the bill of material for a typical 6dof sim is not less than 8k US. For a commercial rig to cost just $5500 is easy too good. Would you please provide a link to the product?
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    Hi Stargazer it may be this

    Contact Thanos for reference.

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    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    As I said before this is the factory price. You will still need to export it and ship it, not sure how much is that would be, with the US Tarrifs now in place it could cost 30% up (Servomotors fall into same category as air pumps and generators lol)