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Iris Dynamics Force Feedback Sticks, Yokes, and Shifters

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by Zed, Nov 30, 2020.

  1. Zed

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    Have you guys seen this stuff? They've apparently been in development for a few years but are doing some wild things with electromagnetics. They have a joystick prototype that because of the force feedback capabilities, they can turn it into a shifter with just software. Multiposition detents, etc. It's very clever. Don't know about commercial availability. Apparently 45 pounds force on the linears but up to 200 pounds possible with modification. They can add engine vibrations too.

    Main website: https://www.irisdynamics.com/

    Video of the shifter from CES 2018:



    There's other videos at their website.

    EDIT... More Information...

    I corresponded with one of the guys at Iris and the sim enthusiast product line is dead at least for now. The joystick is still in development and not a product yet. Their focus for now is high end applications due to the high cost to build. Sounds like mostly high end commercial simulator parts.

    They are selling the linear actuators but apparently they build those to order. I asked ballpark price for a couple of linears with 20-30 pounds force and the person I was corresponding with said about $3k each.

    Found another video... The pieces in this following video are no longer available.



    And another approach using motors out of a Sidewinder. Something like this is much more doable I think.



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    Iris Dynamics (the folks in the video) did a Kickstarter for a flight sim yoke with force feedback using their motor technology to jumpstart development:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/irisdynamics/affordable-force-feedback-flight-sim-control-yoke

    For those interested in some of the control details and why, looks like they got a patent too:

    https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/07/c8/18/47451bf06f86cd/WO2015061900A1.pdf

    They mention in the Kickstarter that the controls are based on Raspberry Pi and Arduino micros. The joystick configuration is probably derived from the linear stuff but no idea how complex the control is. Still trying to find out if they are selling these yet.

    I’d love a side stick that can also be a shifter. Bonus - a shifter with any gate pattern you want since it’s software. And as a stick, with forces that are speed sensitive or that react to what the aircraft is doing. It looks like the joystick could emulate everything from force sticks in modern jets to sticks with mechanical linkages as in general aviation.
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    It is not force feedback, but I actually have my VKB stick configured like that. Their software allows for making virtual triggers along an analog axis. So complementary to my regular X and Y axis, I also get button signals when I move the stick into a preconfigured range. Of course there are no gates, but for a simple sequential shifter it works well enough. One could also combine the virtual buttons into an H-Pattern shift setup, but for that one might want to take the centering springs out and tighten the clutch.