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Creazyrider 2DOF for car races and plane

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by creazyrider, Jun 25, 2018.

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  1. creazyrider

    creazyrider Active Member

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    Hi,
    My name is Loïs, I'm from South of France (Marseille),
    After lot of research on the type of the sim I will build a 2DOF full frame mobile for car races, plane, and roller coaster. I'll make it work with a VR like Occulus, I'm waiting for the next generation of VR.

    I made a try with a small model in MECANO that worked and built a prototype in wood so now I'm building the real one.

    The metal structure is in 40*40mm steel in 2mm deep.
    I will use 2 motors 120W.

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    Here is the model I'm building
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    2018-06-25 12_17_25-Simulateur voiture 2DOF MODIFIé 20.06.18 ‎- 3D Builder.png

    2018-06-25 12_16_49-Simulateur voiture 2DOF MODIFIé 20.06.18 ‎- 3D Builder.png
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    2018-06-25 12_29_42-Simulateur avion 2DOF MODIFIé 20.06.18 ‎- 3D Builder.png
    and in plane config

    2018-06-25 12_29_42-Simulateur avion 2DOF MODIFIé 20.06.18 ‎- 3D Builder.png
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  5. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Just a thought, the best use of torque is at 90 degrees and its effective use drops off dramatically past about 40 degrees. So moving the top rod mount point rearward to the end of the blue frame would make better use of torque and lessen the load on the engines.

    Have a play with SimCalc to get an idea of how design decisions affect the physics involved: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...e-linear-speed-and-forces-of-your-design.270/
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  6. creazyrider

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    Here is the prototype MECANO

    Simu mecano.png
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  7. creazyrider

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    And the 1:1 scale prototype in wood

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  8. creazyrider

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    Hello noorbest, Thanks for your comment, actually, the position of the motors, and the top rod and the G center are not set yet.
    I've begin to buid the mobile frame and then after I will find the G center and I'll calculate the better place to put the motors and the top rod with sim calc.
    I first put the motors at this place to have 13° of angle, I know the Torque will decrease but I'll use the motors on 120° only instead of 180°.
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    The system for the driving wheel and the joystick, I can adjust the position of each one
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    I choose 40*40mm steel square in 2mm thickness

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    The mobile frame before soldering:

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    The back of the Logitech G29 Pedals:

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    The system to maintain the driving wheel :

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    I finally get a 45*45mm square tube for the driving wheel
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    I just received my two motors Présentation1.png
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    I made the support of the pedals
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    and reinforced the structure

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    Now the position of the seat has been found, the next step is to find the G center, I will follow the tutorial of Racingmat using a tube. Thanks to Racingmat for his work, his tutorial is really usefull !
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    The seat supports are now soldered, I need to add the support for the gearbox and find the G center

    Simu10.jpg
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    Now the support for the gearbox lever is soldered

    Simu12.jpg


    Now The upper part is over, I'll try it with some games to check if everything is OK

    Simu13.jpg
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