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  1. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @tasha.

    You have chosen a challenging project area as there are some real issues in creating a motorbike simulator, particularly the lack of centrifugal force effect, have a read through this thread as a place to start: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/motorbike-simulator-good-or-bad-idea.5323/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Feel free to ask questions on your thread, the members here give freely of both their time and expertise.

    Good luck with your project.
  2. mjay89

    mjay89 New Member

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    Hello,

    This is MJ from Pakistan. I was planning to build my own Dirt 1/2 Cabinet so stumbled upon here. Looks like all of you are much more experienced and it would be a pleasure getting hands on information from the Pros.

    Greetings everyone!
  3. JeepGunner82

    JeepGunner82 Member Gold Contributor

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    Hello Sim Racers/Pilots out there,

    I am on a continuing journey in sim racing. Currently running a DIY kit 2DOF seat mover (SCN5), and have had a blast with it. However, as many I'm sure feel the same, there are always tweaking and things to improve! I want to build something similar to the Hexatech, without spending $193,000 for a pro built system. I have begun constructing, and learning what is involved in building a mini motion rig based on a recessed stewart platform. New to Arduino, new to Sim Tools, new to the concepts of Mechatronic Engineering, and the mathematics involved! Can't wait to play Star Citizen, Project Cars, and Dirt, 6DOF, on the Oculus Rift!

    Jeep Gunner

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  4. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    A smart move @JeepGunner82 both having some DIY experience and building a test model before sinking a lot of time and resources into your full blown 6DOF. The research time should pay dividends in what can be an expensive and complex project.

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Feel free to ask questions, the members here give freely of both their time and expertise and their are now a number who are building or have completed their own 6DOF rigs.

    Good luck with your project.
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  5. GR88

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    Hello everybody,
    I'm from the US and pretty new to sim racing. Like most of you, I stumbled here looking to get some info on adding motion to my rig.

    I am a life long car lover and recently discovered sim racing. It's kind of crazy but I had no idea the tech was anywhere near where it is. For me, the whole purpose of this project was to grow and maintain skills for real-world racing. I just started a business so I won't be able to do any real racing for a while. So to compromise I want to build the most realistic sim experience possible.

    I started by buying mid-level peripherals (that I could easily resell) to see if sim racing was for me. I basically got the whole fanatec lineup, built a pretty powerful PC, setup some aura pro transducers on simvibe and build a static chassis. Well after a few weeks of testing I'm hooked!

    My biggest issue is not getting any feedback, especially on how fast I'm moving and the cars reaction under breaking. I built my rig out of scrap wood I had around. Again I knew from the beginning that it would not be a long term solution but I figured if I didn't like sim racing I wouldn't have to worry about selling and shipping a whole chassis. Right away the inability to adjust my peripherals started driving me crazy. So I took the whole thing apart and started to design something new.

    During my research I discovered this forum. I was originally looking for ways to control a SCN5 because I though that was the only reliable solution to motion. After spending pretty much all weekend reading this forum I now realize how wrong I was lol.

    My new plan is to build my entire rig from scratch. I will have just as much fun building everything as I will using it once it's done. I want 3DOF, a G seat, an OSW wheel and to make my own pedals. I plan on going the DC gear motor with JRK Controller route for the motion. Right now I'm waiting for the 80/20 to arrive to put my current setup back to use. I'm not in a rush to get everything done right away. I want to formulate a solid plan so I can keep costs as low as possible and utilize any opportunities that come my way. I know I'll have to fabricate my motion platform and ill have access to a welding shop at the end of the summer.

    I won't feel bad if you don't read this ridiculously long post lol, but I want everyone to know that I appreciate all the work put into this forum. I plan on sharing as much as I can about my own build
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  6. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @GR88.

    You have landed in the right place for DIY motion, there is a ton of information here plus a really active community who freely give of their time and expertise.

    Given your plans have a look at @Avenga76's rig with newly added traction loss, G-seat, JRKs and high powered DC motors.

    You will find plenty to get you started in the FAQs, from design software, dimension of sims, to PSUs, pots, motors, JRKs, Arduinos and Motor Monsters and more: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    We have a glossary for all those acronyms we tend to use, which will help you decipher some descriptions: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    I look forward to following your build thread.
  7. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @mboloo.

    Have a look at existing member builds for some inspiration: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    You will find the FAQ section covers many detailed build related topics: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    We have a glossary for all those acronyms we tend to use, which will help you decipher some descriptions: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Feel free to ask questions, the members here give freely of both their time and expertise.

    Good luck with your project.
  8. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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  9. se041

    se041 New Member

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    Hi there!

    I'm Dominique from Paderborn in Germany. I started my interest in racing sim around christmas last year. Mostly because I heard of Dirt Rally (I loved Colin McRae Rally as a child). Dirt Rally is what I play the moste currently, but as well some PCars.

    Soon I had a T500RS in place and built my first wooden - static rig. Then the hunger for more stepped in and I upgraded from my living-room TV to a 3x27" monitor set (I even had to build a new desk for that :D) and recently some Bassshakers were added. I also infected my brother and two friends with this so I had to build three more rigs :D

    So now I'd like to build a 3dof rig (2 rear seat mounted + rear traction loss) pretty much like the one of @SilentChill (you got my full respect 4 what you built up there mate! - great inspiration)
    I'm already impressed by the amount of information shared here and by the readiness to help here in the forum.:)

    I currently don't have too much time so I will take things slowly in this regards. But I'll do it :D

    Well - hope to have some nice conversations and to learn a lot :cheers

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  10. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @se041, thanks for sharing the images of you existing rig.

    Once the sim bug bites projects take on a life of their own. Many here including @SilentChill just keep on developing their projects and involvement in the active community here.

    You will find the FAQ section covers many detailed build related topics: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    We have a glossary for all those acronyms we tend to use, which will help you decipher some descriptions: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/
  11. Bobbitchin

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    Hi everyone, I just found this exciting new page. I have no electronic or engineering abilities but I built a steering wheels and pedals before they were commercially available (not ffb). I have also made my own 6 speed shifter and several driving chairs ( no motion ) I had the oculus DK2 and sold it to order the Rift which should come soon... I hope to build a motion chair to go with it and get the full vr effect. Looks like I have a lot of study to do to find the best solution to my upcoming project ;) Thank you all for sharing your research for us to look at and learn from.
  12. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @Bobbitchin, sounds like you have a good background for taking on a motion sim build as your next project.

    Have a look at existing member builds, that may help you refine your own project ideas: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    You will find plenty to get you started in the FAQs, from design software, dimension of sims, to PSUs, pots, motors, JRKs, Arduinos and Motor Monsters and more: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    We have a glossary for all those acronyms we tend to use: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Feel free to ask questions, the members here give freely of both their time and expertise.

    Good luck with your project.
  13. Dale Mahalko

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    Hello, I am a new user here, though one with ridiculous ambitions that are off the scale compared to other hobbyist motion simulators. I am probably going to be very quiet and not post much.

    I merely want to build my own powered exoskeleton, to be used as a human-wearable 64+ DOF permanently tethered force feedback haptic interface, for full body, full motion simulation in a virtual world, mounted on a full motion 4-axis 7DOF 360 degree motion platform.

    Oddly I can't seem to find any of these at the local Walmart, and I can't afford to buy anything that SARCOS is making, so I guess I will have to build one myself. As a self-taught hobbyist. With a middle-class American income.

    To be reasonable about it, I am focusing on designing the mechanics first using free 3D editors like Blender, human 3D models from DAZ 3D, and engineering tools like the free AutoDesk Fusion 3D.

    I will save the servo control and physics engine integration for later, once there is a working mechanical exoskeleton prototype with the proper amount of flexibility to match a real human body. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm working on it.

    This is probably just a dream, but I want to see what is possible anyway.
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  14. Dini200

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    hi, my name dini
    i interested to make 2dof with uno r3
  15. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Ambitious indeed @Dale Mahalko!

    It would pay to have a play with having SimTools work with SketchUp, so you can become familiar with it and test out some design ideas: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/how-to-animate-sketchup-3d-model-with-simtools.209/

    It would also be wise to do a model prototype as well: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/build-a-working-model-to-test-your-design-ideas.216/

    The FAQs will be a useful starting point for some research into the various bits that make up a motion simulator: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    SimTools 2.0 is currently in closed beta testing but does include far more numerous axis thjat could be used.
  16. SANTIAGO

    SANTIAGO New Member Gold Contributor

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    hello, i am a spanish player,
    Do you know if any post in Spanish to see ?
    Thank you
  17. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @SANTIAGO.

    The main threads may contain other languages but the expectation is that an English translation will also be provided, via Google Translate.

    So feel free to post in Spanish as long as you also provide a Google Translation in English.
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    hai @noorbeast
    can you help me find a thread that discusses the L293 driver? about wiring
    thanks
  19. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    This is the welcome thread, so in future it would be best to create your own project thread and post your questions there.

    See @prilad's link about wiring the L293: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/miniature-simulator-3-dof.5118/#post-50707

    And @eaorobbie's subsequent comment about modifying his existing servo code to use with it: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/miniature-simulator-3-dof.5118/#post-50729

    @eaorobbie's RC code is here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/rc-model-code-for-arduino-uno-2dof-expandable.89/

    SimTools interface settings are here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/attachments/untitled1-png.15791/
  20. Giang

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    Hi everyone!
    So I'm sorry for my English translations from google. I'm Giang and from viet nam. I want to build a 6 dof system with the lowest price. I should choose the system to have the cheapest cost ( DC motor, AC motor or linear acuator). Look forward to the guidance from everyone!