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2dof to 3dof DIY Seat mover

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Nick Moxley, Mar 3, 2014.

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    IMO yes...? I was proceeding on the assumption that this issue has not been changed.
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    the "questionable" card didn't make it 2 seconds into the 3DMark test.....so its the card. Not to mention i got a "nvidia kernel mode driver 347.09" on desktop about a min or 2 after start up doing Nothing on the desktop.


    Can the driver be playing games with the card ?
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    @Pit why don't you upgrade those projectors to nice crisp 1080p? im running 5870 x 1080 which is a little more demanding than 3 720p. it's only like what 2- 2.5k for 3 1080ps ;)

    I would suggest waiting until mid this year. Intel announced they will be releasing an entirely new series of processors. Broadwell will be released in a few months then later this year they are suppose to announce the next generation which will be a much better jump than just a faster clock speed which is usually the only changes you see with newer cpus.
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    I don't believe so.
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    Do you have your cards overclocked? if so are you sure you dont have one OC'd and the other stock? Sounds like your cards clock speed is set to high for the voltage level you are running
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    I'm running LED projectors, if you know where to buy 1080 LED projectors I will hit on them...
    PS: LED light source with up to 30,000 hours of operation.
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    Actually we should open a separate thread...so I'll make it short:
    1. The small LED projector has no lamps to change. Simracing is a time-consuming thing, so if you would use the LEDs 24/7 they will go off after over five years (earliest)
    2. LED light source projectors have a wider color space
    3. My Qumis have a zoom lens (glass and no plastic), but mostly DLP have glass, too. Cheap LED's don't have any glass lenses.
    3. Most expensive LED projectors have only 800-1000 lumens, but (!!!!) using 40 or 50 inches diagonal 500 lumens on a 50 inch screen is the same brightness as 2000 lumens on a 100″ screen. Remember the Qumis have 800...
    4. Almost no image noise.
    5. Motion artifacts not noticeable if the refresh rate is 120hzm, only very dark artifacts are noisy. DLP are slightly better here.
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    A month ago I wanted to go a Projector route, wanted three at first, then I saw the prices of quality ones. Then I wanted two of them, it would still be nice widescreen, but after longer thinking I went down to 3 x 42" TV's, the KDL-42W705 ones from Sony..
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    As far as i know they are both the same OC spec, Buddy ran these cards for a while before i got them. So i would assume if there was a conflict as such, Buddy would have caught it Long ago. I also did read a little into some of the the OC'ing specs that some cards can be rated a little higher or lower than other's, I cant remember the value there were talking about but might be the frequency ? I can download the AI suite to adjust those thing's but have NO clue what im doing, So fear i'll do more harm than good.
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    @Nick Moxley with the overclocking software that video card makers make you cant really screw up your video card. they wont allow them to push more voltage to your card than NVIDIA states the silicone can handle (unless you flash the bios on the card) so you don't really need to worry about screwing them up for the most part (heat is the only thing that becomes a concern at that point). Its possible you can get the card to run without any issues by bumping up the stock voltage and/or lowing the default clock speed to something slightly slower. if you want you can send me a private message and i can give you my skype name or something similar and i can walk you through the software and what to look for if you want.
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    Long time coming and the cheap skate wheels did do the job in the mean while. Also gave me a nice wear spot to get the angle just So.


    I also made a Foam corner for the left hand side where I'm constantly walking by. So i cut down a RC tire foam and Shoe Goo'd it to the corner. Ive actually been half tempted to just Round off that Corner, but the foam is a interim solution i guess.

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    I can just imagine that corner as a toe stubber...for asthetic you could consider sticking some black and yellow warning tape on it, it would look like a minature barrier wall ;)

    The new wheels look very solid @Nick Moxley, where can you get them from?
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    Nick, what is the travel distance for the drift wheels, looks like 5cm give or take. Thank you.
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    I built in 4" each side, so 8" total.


    Noorbeast, I have a place locally called Castor Land, Just like you would imagine, Shelve after shelf, Isle after Isle of castor's in all shapes sizes and weight limits. These are rates for 350lbs each, and have VERY little rolling resistance.
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    A little somethin im workin on......


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    Nick have you changed the traction settings as it looks as it skids more now???
    And as always im glued to the end of the vid :)..
    Nice one
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    No major changes No, but when traction loss is setup properly, You Rarely see those MAX extension's of the axis due to Normal car behavior when doing clean laps Shouldn't ever get to that Degree of motion Unless in a crash situation as shown. Again personal preference, but your not the first to comment on the Traction loss accuracy compared to whats happening on screen.

    I had a Major Indecent yesterday trying the new Nismo @ Zandvoort. Lost it on the main strait and 4-5 AI's proceeded to Hit me in the front and rear putting me into a 900+ degree spin, It was a rather terrifying moment to be honest.....



    Really hope we can find a New Modeler for this Jordan......



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