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12V DC Motors with 60:1 Gearbox from Motion Control Products

Discussion in 'Marketspace - Marktplatz' started by Roadster2, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. Roadster2

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    Just really a 'heads-up' on the availability of 12V DC Geared motors with 60:1 ratio gearboxes from Motion Control Products. These are going to be ideal motors for sim motion projects :-

    Voltage: 12V
    Current: 23A
    Speed: 65RPM
    Torque: 15Nm
    Peak Torque: 30Nm
    Gear Wheel Material: Delrin
    Price: £65 plus £9.99 delivery

    These are available in both Left Hand and Right Hand Gearbox form :-

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380956910371&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111415229286&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

    I would point out that I'm nothing to do with MCP and I'm not on any sales commission. I just thought that these links would be very useful to members.

    12V Motor 60-1 Gearbox.png

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    Hi,
    If I wanted to build a 2DOF rig would I buy a left and right hand motor, or just 2 of the same? Just when I thought I had this down, something else to confuse me :) Thanks for any insight you can provide!

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    I would recommend a left and right one then both levers will be either on the outside or the inside, keeping things symmetrical is recommended. IMO
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    Thanks for the info!
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    Do you offer these in other ratio's such as 25:1 but still in the Right and Left gearbox style's?
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    He said he doesnt sell them just sharing the information.

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    I just emailed them for shipping cost and options to the US, I will share back what I hear. Still hoping these will work with my JRKs
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    if they are a 200 watt motor, they will be fine with JRKs.
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    I've just ordered these and get the datasheet, maybe useful for someone because of measurements.

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    It wont allow me to complete the order because he hasnt provided shipping cost information to the US
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    the motors are pushing the limits of the JRKS, considering most of the time we push the motors about 2 to 2.5 times to rated current.
    A good PID, motor settings and proper profile will help.
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    Thank you so much for the heads up!
    I have emailed the chap for postage costs to down under...
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    I passed on that info to @kanuk in a PM @SeatTime, Motion Dynamics is a much better option.
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    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Yes @noorbeast , got your info! And @SeatTime I did see the australian dealer for these motors., though at 65 quid IW as thinking they may be cheaper even with postage as the Aussie motors will come to a cost of about 200 each. Now there is a confusion for me amongst all this and that being what are the ratings of the motors themselves, some ahve given me the link as below
    http://www.motiondynamics.com.au/worm-drive-motor-12v-24v-200w-180-rpm-20nm-torque.html
    and then having to buy the wormdrives at 60:1 ratio or do I buy the motor you (@SeatTime) suggested? Are there particular speeds and torque ratings I should be looking at?

    Regards!
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    Depends on what type of sim you are going to build and the amount of load on the motor. For a seat mover, I use the standard 25:1 gearbox which comes with the motiondynamics cheap 200W motor. The Motor and 60:1 gearbox are dearer if you were going to build a full balanced frame, but it is a better quality motor and all steel gearbox. Although some people seem to be having issues with these higher current motors and JRKs, but I cannot comment as I only have the cheap version (I did although fit a 60:1 steel gearbox to the cheap motor for my heave module - works fine) .
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    It does depend a little on what you settle on as a final design @kanuk.

    You are a big bloke so anything other than a shoulder mount seat shaker and you really will need to look at the bigger motors/60:1 gearboxes.

    Like @SeatTime I converted the 200W motors to 60:1, but that resulted from underestimating the Fanatec controller weight implications on a compact design.
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    Thanks guys!

    Well, Considering that my first need is primarily for the use of Elite Dangerous and secondarily a sim for GRID AUTO, a shoulder mounted seat shaker may be in order. It seems to the most efficient of all the designs... WOuld this assumption be correct? And should I start a build thread so I can get q' and A;s answered as I go on this build journey?
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    Yes on both counts @kunuk.

    You will find there is plenty of advice and support along the way.

    I look forward to following your build.
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    Perfect! Time to start the planning....
    I'll start a thread very soon...

    Thanks heaps guys!
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