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Wiper motors 2 dof + traction loss motion sim

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Anthony atallah, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Anthony atallah

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    Hello everyone.
    First of all I want to thank you for this awesome forum and community, and especially Dmax @Halloween2go @noorbeast for you great help and tips. You are the reason I started this build.

    I build before an arduino uno steering wheel and pedals kit.
    Forum link: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/arduino-uno-steering-wheel-diy.16512/#post-220899

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  3. Anthony atallah

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    I even built a diy "racing bucket seat", kind off o_O
    Using metal sheets from a washing machine for the back, and the chassis of an lcd tv for the bottom :grin

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    Nice work :thumbs

    Something to keep in mind, if you have not done so already you will need to check and if necessary adjust the balance of the rig with yourself in it, plus with all peripherals attached: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...-of-gravity-to-balance-a-motion-simulator.55/

    The rig has a fair amount of mass, where do you plan mounting the motors, near the feet to maximise inherent design leverage or somewhere else?
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    I agree with Mr. Noorbeast.. the balance of the rig (with wheel, pedals, and YOU sitting it it has to be pretty close to the center of mass. Also I had to mount my motors way back and use pushrods to the top of the seat to use the most potential power of the motors. Had I mounted them real low under the seat, they might not have had enough power to move the full frame like yours.. Keep building it my friend! DMAX
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    Yes I did a balance check with me in it and wood logs to simulate the peripherals and steering kit weight. As shown below in the first image, but I'm working alone.
    I did also all the wiring and a startup on smc3.
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    Great progress :thumbs

    How have the motors coped with initial tests?
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    Today I'll set the parameters of smc3, I felt that one of the motor was a bit slower on reverse.
    But they look fast and powerful without a major load yet.
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    Reinforced the u joint and motor holders.
    And did more testing and tweaking.
    I'll try to upload a video.

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    Here's the YouTube link of the first tests.
    Please consider subscribing if you're interested in my other projects also.

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    Looking good this is very close to what I'm trying to achieve very nearly there.
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    What motors are you using? As I'm already thinking I need more power I have 12v wiper motors
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    Using 70/80 mercedes 12v wipers.
    I was skeptical, but I spent more than 2 hours playing LFS without too much heat.
    And I could crank it a bit more.
    Also a 100ah battery that couldn't crank the pickup anymore.
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    I got myself a 12v 350w PSU hope it will cope with 3 12v motors.
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    Is it a desktop power supply??
    I think you will mostly max it.
    I will try to use 10amps fuse for each one, if they break, we will know peak current. I'm using 20amps fuses without problems.
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    This is my current steering and pedal setup. It's working good but not enough. So I started gathering resources for a proper diy ffb.

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    I would recommend to use leonardo boards for these kits because it's easier and way more versatile.
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    Today i got a used but immaculate lenovo VR headet and joystick, and managed to get it working with Live For Speed.
    NO WORD COULD DESCRIBE THE EXPERIENCE!
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