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2dof to 3dof DIY Seat mover

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Nick Moxley, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. SeatTime

    SeatTime Well-Known Member

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    About $249 each for a Gamer 2 (240v version). http://www.pagnianimports.com.au/buttkicker-gamer-2.html. Thats a good markup from $149 in the states.
  2. bsft

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    Thanks @SeatTime , that answered my next question as to how much the buggers are. For that cost, I will look at building my own from an old car speaker.
    @Nick Moxley , people say Australia might be one of the best countries to live in, but at a huge cost.
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  3. bsft

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    Off topic slightly, I remember a situation a while ago that the steam website was set up to see which country you are from when checking prices. For the same game bought on line via a US IP, it was half the price for the same game bought on line through a AU IP. Steams first response was shipping costs. Dunno how, they get downloaded electronically.
    Also with internet connections and technology, we have the same gear and costs to install as overseas, but we get hit 50-100% or more in charges. Heck, even my provider wants an extra $15 per month to go from 512k upload to 1mb upload. I managed to find out what they had to do for me to get that. They said we turn a dial.
  4. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

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    So On Saturday i had my first official test session with 2 "lfe's" on the seat bolts and my Gamer 2 on the seat frame. HOLY CRACKERS!!!!! Thats what i was looking for/expecting from the LFE's. Vibration's that will make your eye balls shake to the point of not being able to read text. One thing i noticed was the LFE's on the seat bolt are in a completely different Fq range than the Gamer 2 on the Seat frame. Kinda cool to be able to cover a larger spectrum of the Low end Stuff.

    [​IMG]


    I also re did my motor locks, the Bent flat bar i had before would prevent the arms from Dropping down, but wouldn't prevent the arms from Going UP when i sat forward in the chair to reach something. SO i came up with these.

    Open

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    Locked

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  5. bsft

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    great idea with the locks, I have been trying to work something out for a while myself.
  6. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

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    Ya I was rather pleased with them myself :p. The hardwood strips have come in quite handy throughout the build of the rig, from the Keyboard mount, the Mouse tray arm and now the motor locks.
  7. Historiker

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    Nice use of hardwood, I will get more of you to build the way that I do eventually! lol :D

    Great idea for the motor locks as well. Right now I am using a strip of 3/4" plywood that I tilt up after I am finished using the platform otherwise my rig jerks violently back upright when I turn it on.
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    Liquid tape is awesome. I fixed my carburetor diaphragm in my Honda vtr1000f. took about 4 coats and a few days to cure but its still holding after a few years now and I ride the snot out of it.
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  9. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

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    Yupp Definitely comes in handy at times, I just done see the point in sealing up the hot swap connector on the PS as the likely hood of something falling into the connector is Slim to nil.
  10. Historiker

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    Nick, that is understandable. I was actually commenting on my own PSUs at that time as they have very open contacts. The type that you went with are recessed and are pretty well protected. :cheers
  11. Nick Moxley

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    Got me some New Rod ends in today, Wow MUCHOS Better quality VS the Ebay units i first tried. And The best part is they were just as cheap and the exact same threading, So Very little modifying needed. All that needed doing was to shorten the Threaded bolt to allow my motor locks to lock into place.
    These ends also have quite a few more degrees of freedom Vs the Other style Rod ends. So that will be a benefit to not have to use washer's or shims to prevent the ends from binding.

    here what I got.

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/4pcs...ight-hand-tie-rod-end-bearing/1559309095.html

    and here's them Installed.

    [​IMG]
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  12. Michael Hensen

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    thanks for the link, got them on order right away!
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    It's to bad that they don't use PayPal
  14. Nick Moxley

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    Agreed but at least with a CC your GUARANTEED to get your products, PayPal can refuse you a refund after X amount of time. CC companies dont follow such a Rule.

    Plus Ali Express has its Own Buyer protection with a Full Refund if your order goes missing.
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  15. Michael Hensen

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    I order quite a lot on this Chinese ebay.. but it is perfect.. free shipping in many cases, just need to have patience.. If in a hurry don't go there or pay a lot for transportation!
    Nevertheless, never had any problems, just things I forgot that were in shipping!
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    I often order on DX.com (arduino things, switches, ODB2, ...) without any problem.

    Your Aliexpress link looks straightforward (like ebay): +1 :)

    On Alibaba, I'm often lost among lists with minimum quantity above 50 or 500... or prices between 1$-120$ which requires to ask real prices...
  17. Nick Moxley

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    Like anything tho mat, You have to be a Savy buyer when it comes to Ali or Even Ebay. There's Lots of Crooks out there who will take advantage of people who dont know any better. Like for instance watching "Auctions" End for FAR MORE than it would have been at a Retail level and You would have it RIGHT NOW! Lol its pretty amazing how people get Sooo Involved in the Auction they loose all sense of what the Item is ACTUALLY worth Lol.


    Big PLUS to AliExpress, As I understand it, Your GUARANTEED your shipment. Im pretty sure there like a Middleman service (cant remember the real name lol) and basically Ali holds on to the funds and when you receive your item The seller gets his $$


    Yes you have to watch for the quantity thing too, Sometimes you find a Price thats UNreal and soon realize its not what you thought it was. lol
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  18. Nick Moxley

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  19. Nick Moxley

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    Little update on John's rig. The build is all done just need to play with the PID setting's on these new motor's. Ill have more complete pics next time i swing by.

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    ive Also gotten my Seat belts all sorted out with some spring tension. Im rather happy with it so far.

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    nice job
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