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wiper motor

Discussion in 'Motor actuators and drivers' started by sharky, May 24, 2008.

  1. sharky

    sharky New Member

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    hi guys!

    i am searching for a wiper motor with come certain characteristics but wasnt able to find one.. maybe you can help me...

    1) 12 V
    2) at least 40 W
    3) rotatory output after the gearbox (some have the 90° angle motion.. )
    4) shipment from europe
    5) at least 5 cm long output axle.
    6) strong steel etths in the gearbox.. the new ones are all made out of plastics and break


    any idea?

    thanks

    igor
  2. tronicgr

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    Hi Igor,

    It may worth to take a look on these:
    http://ankarsrum.sitedirect.se/website1 ... _web08.pdf

    They are used in other applications but the KSV 4030 model with selflocking and aluminum gearbox might be interesting...
    (Link was sent to me by Ferrari_man, thanks)

    Regards, Thanos
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    sharky New Member

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    hey, thats exactly what i need! thank you! :)

    do you have some informations on the price? wasnt able to find it on the site.

    thnx

    igor
  4. Ferrari_Man

    Ferrari_Man Member Gold Contributor

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    Hey... I have found this site where they have a lot of these strong wire motors... I havn't been able to find out which one have selflocking ... (time issue).. but here is the link. They have 3 different brands ...

    http://www.cooptim.hu/main.php?language=en

    products -> Wire feed motor

    Ferrari_man
  5. tronicgr

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    Thanks Ferrari_man!!!!

    From the site you mention i found these motors that are 24volt and are good in price too! I can't tell if they have selflocking...

    Motor : KSV 5035/551 --> 57,00 €
    Voltage: 24 V
    Speed: 200 rpm
    Input power: 120 W


    Motor : KSV 4030/182 --> 26,25 €
    Voltage:24V
    Speed: 200 rpm
    Input power:40-65W


    Regards, Thanos
  6. Ferrari_Man

    Ferrari_Man Member Gold Contributor

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    Hey again.

    I have one of these;
    KSV 5035 / 692
    42V 0713 with a optisk encoder
    It is from a danish welder company. Very strong motor, but it don't have selflocking so I guess its worthless to my simulator (frex system)

    EDIT:
    I also have one of these.
    KSV 4030/219
    24V W0216

    It has plastik gearbox and also don't have selflocking

    Ferrari_man
  7. monast

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    Hello guys,

    today I got a starter motor car, and I dismounted, it run, Thanos've tried to use them better than wiper motor, more torque?
    It would have more power to my simbike. Need a good source of power, 2 batteries car
    You think you can so DSMH power?
    You've proven with these starter engines, what do you think?

    Thanks
    Monast
  8. Ferrari_Man

    Ferrari_Man Member Gold Contributor

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    I wrote to ankarsrum about the motors Thanos suggested and got these gear ratio. Does anyone ones if they would work.


    Motor : KSV 5035/551 --> 57,00 € have 1:24
    Voltage: 24 V
    Speed: 200 rpm
    Input power: 120 W


    Motor : KSV 4030/182 --> 26,25 € have 1:37
    Voltage:24V
    Speed: 200 rpm
    Input power:40-65W

    They suggested this motor for the best ratio for selflocking

    Motor KSV 4030/801..... with ratio 1:125
    Voltage 42V
    Speed 80 rpm

    I havn't got a price from them yet, only the ones from the link
    http://www.cooptim.hu/main.php?language=en
    Ferrari_man
  9. tronicgr

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    Hi Ferrari_man,

    I still think that is better to use these motors:

    Motor : KSV 5035/551 --> 57,00 € (have 1:24)
    Voltage: 24 V
    Speed: 200 rpm
    Input power: 120 W

    They are fast enough (three rotations per second!) and two times stronger than the simple wiper motors I use!! Plus its more easy to power them with 24volts instead of the 42volts that the KSV 4030/801 motors are require!

    Regards, Thanos
  10. Ferrari_Man

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    Hey Thanos

    I wrote to Ankarsrum again about the two motors I have at work, and ask what the ratio was on them.

    KSV 5035 / 692 it has 1:24 in ratio and this one is very easy to turn (without a tool)
    42V 0713 with a optisk encoder

    KSV 4030/219 it has 1:37 in ratio and is harder but still not enough (but I have to use a tool to turn it)
    24V W0216

    So I don't think we can use this one:
    Motor : KSV 5035/551 --> 57,00 € (have 1:24)
    Voltage: 24 V
    Speed: 200 rpm
    Input power: 120 W
    ..
    I have found a new site with a lot af wipermotor and with all the datasheet (I think they use these on toyotas)
    http://www.valeo-swf-motoren.de/index.php

    I am trying to find a perfekt one here...
    ferrari_man
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    Hi

    They using 43/3 to have a round number on their ratio. Its means that for every 43 turns of the motor's axle they get an output of 3 turns on the geared output axle.

    Roughly its 14.333333333333334 / 1 (but it doesn't do a nice round number isn't it?)



    Regards, Thanos
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    Hi Thano

    I want to know if there are cheap 12V wiper motor to use with your simulator and in particulat enough fast!!

    I use micra wiper motor, but seems to be slow !
    waiting for answer
    regards Stefano
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    HI ALL
    we have machine (submerged) type esab
    and we have a problem in wire feed motor(ksv 5035/735) 24v we would like to help us
    the problem IS
    ERROR IN MOTOR CONTROL UNITE 0
    ERROR NR :186
    NO ENCODER PULSES M1

    we thank you in advance and we are looking forwards to hearing from you soon

    Best Regards