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Two simulators on one pc?

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by Tim Armstrong, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. Tim Armstrong

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    Hi,

    I am thinking this is probably a "no", but would it be possible to use SimTools to control two simulators on just one pc?
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    Hi,

    You can connect two or more simulators but only one game and one SimTools.
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    Oh ok, very cool! Thanks for the reply! :)
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    why would you like to do so...
    if it to race against another driver i guess you could make two separate sims, and just lan connect the games only (if the game allow you to do so, games like lfs or so allow you to do it.

    fer
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    It would be for a large scale vr experience and in the experience there is more than one simulator being implemented.
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    Just want to make sure I understand... SimTools can control up to six actuators on one pc correct?

    So if you have two simulators with three actuators each you are ok.

    If you have two simulators with four actuators each though, can SimTools handle that on one pc?
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    Ahhh, gotcha...that's cool!

    So twelve total actuators being controlled max?

    Unfortunately, I just found out that it looks like we will need to control sixteen actuators at a time! Any ideas on how one pc can control that many on SimTools?

    Also, only eight of the sixteen need to be controlled at any one time. This project is for a large scale vr experience and there will be four separate motion rigs with four actuators each, but only two of the rigs will need to be running at the same time as the players move through the experience.

    Any suggestions on how to accomplish this off one pc?

    Thanks in advance!
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    Is this for a commercial project or can you polease explain the large scale experience that your are working toward?

    And can you please provide a sketch of what you actually have in mind and want to control.
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    It is basically going to be a four player experience that will have four separate elevators that will be motion controlled to shake and bounce a bit when the players are in them.

    Only two of the four elevators will be active at any given time...for example, two players reach one elevator about the same time the other two players reach the second elevator. The two elevators will move on the actuators and then the players move on.

    A little later they reach the last two elevators (elevators three and four) and those then move.

    So only two of the four need to be active at any one given time.

    Each elevator will have four actuators on them controlling the movement for a total of sixteen actuators for all four elevators...

    I don't know if there is a way to use SimTools to control that many actuators?
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    Very much sounds like it - nothing against people commercializing an idea, but it needs to be in the right area for the information of members, as some members do not take kindly in being used as free engineering support for a commercial venture.
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    As an Admin @Pit can assist moving this to the appropriate section when he has a free moment.

    Again a workflow sketch of what you have in mind would help, rather than a description.
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    Hi,
    Yes, this is a commercial venture and apologies for having my questions in the wrong thread. Thanks for moving to correct location :)

    I will put a sketch together today so as to better explain.

    Thanks again!
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    probably i this is wrong, but... if you connect the actuators in parallel, so, you connect like this.

    -one pc, sends information to an arduino,

    - arduino sends the information needed to two separated motor drivers, by just using an ugly wire connection in "Y" (you take two wires out of a single wire)

    - arduino receives imput from a potentiometer connected only to one of the motors (or actuators)

    - before you turn on for the first time your sim, you manually aligne the two actuators so they will move just the same, (i guess if the actuators or motors are equal) they sould keep moving just the same.

    would it work?
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    Hi!
    I'm digging out this old post. Although I have a T1000 3DOF, I have little knowledge in the rig command and it was a pain in the neck having my rig working properly. I know almost nothing in computer science and the various needed software. My project is to add another T1000 3DOF in the room, and to make it simple, buy another computer for this second rig. I understand that the two rigs could compete through an internet connection. Unfortunately, the internet connection in the room has a very low rate and even disconnects sometimes. Thus I have to find another way of having the two rigs talking to each other if this possible. Any idea how I could achieve that? With limited technical language please!
    Thank you for your help, and sorry for my low level technical background.

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    I think what you want to do is called LAN enabled racing, where you race against a competitor using your own network. I suspect that you may already have a LAN setup, or could easily set it up, depending on your network hardware. but worst case you can have a simple LAN between 2 computers: https://blog-archive.josephcs.com/setting-up-a-simple-lan-connection-between-2-pcs/#main_content

    Games that support LAN will implement the interface in different ways, here is Assetto Corsa as an example:

    Lan.jpg