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SCN5: 150mm vs 100mm

Discussion in 'Motor actuators and drivers' started by Fahim, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. Fahim

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    Dear sirs,

    I have attached a spec sheet.

    Radial load capacity for 100mm is 10N.
    It is 5N for the 150mm.

    I do not know what this even means as of yet but clearly 100mm is stronger in one way.

    Kind Regards,

    Fahim

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    However, it should be noted that this decreased rating for the 150mm is only because it extends further. If you only extended it 100mm, it would have the same rating. Dur to the built in limiter and the 25% limiter in the SCN5 plugin, you will have no issues with radial load, and will appreciate the increased travel if you can affiord it.
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    Thats right!

    In the end it is not an important factor for the simforcegt desgin, as long as you dont kick them from the side ;D
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    Dear sir,

    If you set the 25% limit on the 150mm then you will have only maybe 1cm extra length over 10cm.

    Like a woman say: Size matter :/


    Kind Regards.
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    It is all testing right now, it's so that nobody will slam the actuators and break them. It will probaby be less when safe.

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    The 100mm have 25% safety limit as well :brows:
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    They all have 3 years. Mirai is the main distributor, they send them to automation4less if you buy them from there. So you can get them anywhere, 3 years everywhere, but I would just talk to Mirai and be done with it.

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    Mirai is the main distributor for America and Europe. In case of warranty issues, those resellers have to send them back to them anyway. And they probably will we able to give much more qualified technical help, I guess.

    Mirai helped us to implement the SCN5 by answering a lot of questions, and have been very kind so far. So if you dont get them for half price somewhere else, I'd appreciate it if you guys could order them via Mirai.

    Regards
    Christian
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    Dear sirs,

    I will order from Mirai Inter-Tech.
    I suppose I would need thier 3 metre power cable. I beleive this is $45.


    Kind Regards.
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    You don't have to if you can make your own. But if you make your own and blow up the actuator they won't fix it.

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    Each actuator has a power cable and a data cable for a total of two plugs. If you make them yourself, this is a total of four cables. I believe that the Dyadic cables from Mirai combine the power and data into one cable bundle. This means that you would need two of their cables if I'm not mistaken. If you are able to solder, you would be better off to make your own. I believe that you were looking into a FT232R USB based adapter. If that is correct, then you would be able to wire it directly to the cables on the actuator yourself. Fair warning, if you cut the plugs off of the actuators the warranty is void so some folks have purchased matching plugs.

    Here is a wiring doagram that should help you. It depicts the way that my SCN5 is connected to the FT232R USB adapter.

    SCN5-Wiring-For-Devantech-USB.jpg
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    Dear sir,

    Thank you. I have coped this diagram into my folder on pc.
    Would this be the same diagram I use to 150mm actuator. I am sure that everything should be same design.

    Kind Regards.
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    I only have 150mm actuators, but I believe this will work for 100mm as well. If noone has told you yet, be sure to wire them up based on the pinouts, not the wire colors. I have been told that Dyadic is not consistent with wire colors.
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    If you buy the power wire from them, the brown is the ilk wire as the extension cable colors don't change (or so they said), so the brown should go to the pin ilk from the drawing. If you make your own go by the pins.
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    Dear sirs,

    This is a diagram from spec sheet of a scn5 actuator.

    Vertical thrust is only 7kg max. So this maybe why you guys say have actuator angled. And not fully upright.

    Nice diagram though to see variation etc.

    I was thinking about posting diagram of SCN6 but it only does 200ms speed. I do not know if that is fast enough to react in accordance to that of a game (x-sim software).

    Kind Regards.

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    I personally think that 200mm is fast enough for a driving simulator, and am considering trying the SCN6 actuators on my next project.
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    Dear sir,

    That would be interesting to see. I do not think anyone had ever used scn6 to make a simulator.

    I think it would be fine for 100mm actuators as there is not much movement.

    150mm, it might take a long time to reach its position and might not work well when you do silly left to right turns quickly.

    Kind Regards.
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    Actually, everyone seems to be slowing down the SCN5's quite a bit with their speed and acceleration settings. I think an SCN6 would be able to match the speeds that most people seems to be using the SCN5's at.