Need help Scn5 how to plug in this...

first my name is Donald im from quebec canada, so english is my second language so please excuse my english.

I did buy from James a guy from florida is actuator, power supplie and the usb/someting to go with. Im working on the desing of my simulator right now, i plan to get my 3 monitors (24,22,22) moving whit me, is it réalistic?

My question ( the first of many) is how to plug the scn5 in the usb devise using those wire , any graphic, a plan something...

you are my hope right now :

Salut,

Tout ce que tu veux savoir se trouve dans ce thread:
http://www.x-simulator.de/forum/scn5-hardware-thread-t1083.html


À partir du connecteur data de ton actuator, suit ton extension de cable et connecte tes convertisseurs comme ça:

Blanc = A
Vert = B
Noir = GND
Rouge = Optional 5v

Ensuite connecte les cables usb à ton PC où sera installé X-sim Profiler.

Je vois qu'il te manque une petite vis sur un de tes convertisseurs...

Pour ce qui est de relier tes écrans à ta platforme, sa dépends de l'utilisation que tu vas en faire ... Si c'est pour la course, tu es mieux de seulement faire bouger ta chaise, tu obtiendras de meilleures sensations. Si c'est pour un simulateur de vol, c'est mieux de tout faire bouger ...


Bleco

Un gros merci Bleco

C'est pour de la course, j'ai crée mon stan super solide en métal enfin je pense, avec un rack pour les pélal en toyau de plomberie style joyrider mais vissé a une plaque de metal sous mon siège ,je posterai des photo dans le futur. j'ai vais tenté l'expérience, Si c'est trop pesant les moniteurs seront a part, mais je tien a ce que le volant et les pédales bouge avec le siège.
Si non ca doit être gossant de bougé et que les pédales ne suive pas, il faut ajusté l'angle de ses jambes pour contrebalancé l'effet des actuateurs, ce qui dans une auto a pas rapport.

Anyway a suivre

un gros merci d'un co-patriote Québécois

Hi Donald,

From what I can see here, the guy you bought it from made his own wires. This means that you can't reference wire colors. We can't see in the pictures how they are spliced together, so I'm afraid we cant be of much help. It is likely that Red is + and Black is - on your RS485 adapters but again, it is not possible to say for sure.

Can you reach ther guy you bought them from. He should be able to tell you this information quickly.

Also, you can disregard the L and R lables on the adapters. X-Sim allows you to assign a name(Left or Right) to an actuator based on its serial number. What physical PCB it is connected to does not determine if it is left or right.

Thanks
i did try to reach the guy, i hope he anwser me, maybe in the next days.

i will read, im sure i will firure it out

thank again

ok a got a anwser from the seller

The actuator wire harness connect to the actuators through the plugs already attached at one end. The open ended wires screw into the usb converters where the 4 screws are located. I believe on xsims website is a more detailed picture that you might be able to find. When I get home tonight I will email you the picture I used for reference. The power supply will have to be wired up any ordinary extension cord with an end chopped off. I do not know exactly what the voltages are in Canada but I'm sure you do or could find it online.

Hope that helps!

James

Salut,

... Sa pas plus rapport de faire bouger tes pédales, volant et moniteurs. Quand tu écrases dans un vrai char, ta suspension fait en sorte que ton chassie reste bien droit ... La légère inclinaison ne pourrait pas être simulé avec 2 actuators placés à l'arrière de ton frame, sa t'en prendrait au moins 4. Je sais que plusieurs ici l'on essayé et son revenu à ne bouger que le siège. Tous les membres les plus expérimentés pourront te confirmer que c'est en ne bougeant que le siège que tu obtiendras la meilleure simulation de force avec un simulateur à 2 dof. Si tu relies tes moniteurs à tes 2 actuators arrières, tu vas te retrouver à regarder le ciel et le plancher en accélération et freinage ce qui n'est vraiment pas représentatif de la réalité. Mais bon à chacun son trip et au pire essaie les différentes méthodes et choisie celle qui te convient le mieux.

Bleco :

Je te tiendrai au courants des développement au fils des tests. merci du commetaire

Here are the graphic of james the seller



from James
Donald,

Just got done reading through your post and from what I read, everyone has been very helpful! Here is the drawing I used to make my connections. Located on the usb converters where the screws are you will see the labeling for each position. Look at the actuator plug and you will see I did not wire up the optional 5 volts because it is not needed to run. I just moved and started a new job so my response time has been slow. Hope that helps.

James

still stuck

i see the graphick whit 4 colors but cot 2 black and 2red

so i put un black in b
one red in a
another black in grond


and a trie the opposite, does something happenig when a got it right? how do i know that my computer3x-sim reconize it?

When you get it right, starting X-Sim will cause the actuators to calibrate (fully retract / center) and be listed in the output list of the Interfaces Section.

Yep
By stripping down the wires, i was able see the colors of the wires and it work. Both actuator work and are reconize by x-sim but one usb converter doe not work.
The 'L' one by the pic can some one can see what wrong. because the 'r' one work. I have notice a difference, 2 small bracket on the upper right (on the picture)of the converter can that be the problem, The R one do not have it ?






We are getting there thanks a lot everyone :

If its broke where can i buy another one? or can i fix it?

It's usually possible to see what is wrong from the pictures, although it is easy to see that your adapters aren't identical. I've had those adapters in the past (actually I think I've had just about every adapter on the market). I can't remember where I got these ones from, but I do remember that they did fairly well for an off the shelf adapter, and I recall a store representative postin here about them, buit I can't find the post.

In the end, these adapters didn't meet my needs so I a probably have them laying around here somewhere. I'll take a look.

If you're in a hurry, these are OK for off-the shelf adapters http://www.robotshop.ca/devantech-usb-r ... rface.html TrossenRObotics.com used to carry them, but I think they are out of tock.

Those brackets are diodes. Are you able to see their type? What's written on them?
If you could determine their type, you could place a pair of them where they are on the other (working) adapter.

Or you may try to get a replacement from the manufacturer/reseller.

However, did you isolate the adapter boards from the aluminium sheet? Otherwise you may cause a shortcut beetween the adapters via the solder spots.

regards

OK i did buy the usb converter http://www.robotshop.ca/devantech-usb-r ... rface.html like you told me and it work the first time so big thanks for the link.

Im posting so pics of my frame




you notice that i want my wheel and pedal to move whit me

My problem right now
ready to get my simulator together but when im starting x-sim my actuator are deployed 100mm it move to close to 0mm and back to 100mm, so to buil it i need my actuator to be at 50mm to bolt my frame whit the scn5.

It might be a dum question but im stuck.

thanks in advance

Interface Settings -->Double CLick SCN5Serial in the Interfaces List -->Use Combobox to select each actuator and slide the current position slider out 50%

NOTE: You should use extreme caution with this design. Without the proper actuator angles and pivot point, you can easily destroy an actuator. When you beigin testing, make small movements away from the pivot point and see if you hear actuator strain before going further.

thanks a lots for the tips.

I will be extremely carefull, and actuly i tink i will post pics of my set up for approuval of your expertise :yes: