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JRK 12v12: Red feedback curve is jittering

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by MarkusB, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. MarkusB

    MarkusB Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    Dear All,

    at the moment I have 4 JRK 12v12 boards installe on my rig:
    2 for my 2 DOF seat and 2 for my integrated G-Seat.

    The problem is that one of the JRK boards is not working properly: The red feedback curve is jittering so much, that it is not even possible to configure the board.

    Here is a screenshot of the JRK config utility with the feedback curve:
    JRK_Problem.jpg

    All other 3 JRKs are working perfectly.

    What I did:
    I connected a different JRK with the pot and motor of the non-working board. Result: Works correctly.
    That means it is not a faulty pot and not faulty wires.

    Then I even bought a new JRK board and corrected it. Same result: Also the new JRK behaves in the same way.

    So either both JRKs are defect (maybe because of some mistake I did by myself), or it is a configuration problem.

    Did anyone of you ever xperience something similar?

    Thanks a lot for any hint,
    Markus
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    It would help if you post all of your settings.
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    MarkusB Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    @noorbeast: Here are screenshots of my settings:
    01_Input.jpg 02_Feedback.jpg
    03_PID.jpg 04_Motor.jpg
    05_Errors.jpg

    I have also added the exported settings file.

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    Your don't look to have set the range in the Feedback tab by using the Learn button.
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    Yes, that's right. And that's my problem: I cannot do this due to the jittering.
    I can set the "max" value, because on this end the curve is not jittering that much. But when I turn the pot for reaching the "down" value, the curve starts jittering and jumping from one end to the other, so that it is impossible to set the value.
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    I would suggest you try changing the USB cable as well.

    Then reset the JRK to its defaults and start again with calibration, using recommended settings. It is in File ->Reset to default settings. In your first post the Analog Samples were not 512.
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    Thanks, @noorbeast!

    I already tried 4 USB cables, and yesterday I installed the latest firmware. (Maybe it was already on it before, because it hasn't changed for some years.)
    I changed the samples to 512 when I compared the settings with those of a working board.

    Tonight I will follow your recommendation to reset the settings to their default.
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    Unfortunately, reset did not solve the problem.
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    Have you tried a different pot and wiring, rather than swap out the JRKs?
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    Yes, I tried a different pot yesterday without success.
    Today I dismounted the JRK and a pot from my rig and just did a minimal setup: I just connected the JRK to the pot and to a USB port, i. e. without PSU and without motor:
    IMG_4637.JPG

    Same result: The curve was jittering.

    I have 2 JRKs and 2 pots separated from the rig, and I tested different combinations of them forth and back, and suddenly it worked.

    Now both boards (still separated from the rig) work with both pots.

    I have absolutely no idea what I did differently compared to my tests yesterday, and this is a bit frightening. However, at the moment the curve is perfectly smooth.

    Next Saturday at the latest I will connect the JRK to my rig again and do further testing.

    For now thanks a lot for all your thoughts and hints, @noorbeast.
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    Progress is progress, but it sure would be good to pin down the source of the interference.
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    Agreed. Maybe some tiny piece of metal sticked at the remaining soldering flux and I removed it when cleaning the bottom of the JRK. Otherwise I have no idea.
    I really hope that from now on my 4th JRK will work as reliable as his three colleagues.
    Then I am confident to finally have my rig fully functional next Saturday evening. In this case I will provide a report in my build thread.
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