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Showroom JIFFY G-SEAT and G-SKULL

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by BlazinH, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Philip K

    Philip K New Member

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    Hi BlazinH

    sorry to hear about your dad, I hope he makes a swift recovery, projects, etc are of distant importance compared to the health of family!

    For me, my interest is in both items, whilst doing my research for building a sim of my own I had gone through thinking solely in motion terms, then my eyes were opened to the g seat and that meant that I could scale back the motion element somewhat and focus on sustained forces rather than just quick movements that fade away. I had never considered the head in terms of applying force but once I had seen gskull It just seemed that not having it would be missing out on something which could enhance my experience.

    I am still at the early stages of planning, I like to make sure I have all things covered, so I research a lot, much to the detriment of my wife who has to listen to me work out all the options lol. But when I do this, it’s a substantial investment between motion and equipment and I would prefer to do it right or as close to right as I can straight off the bat!

    I will def be keeping up with progress with interest and in the hope when the time comes it can form part of my plan. But in the meantime, good luck to you and I hope it works out for you too as I’m sure it’s a labour of love!!

    as before, best wishes for yourself and your dad![/QUOTE]
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  2. Chipless

    Chipless New Member Gold Contributor

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    I'm so sorry to hear about your father's injury. I hope he is out of the rehab facility by now, but if not, I hope he gets to come home very very soon. He is lucky to have you in his corner!

    To answer your question: I am definitely interested in both products. Although there are other options available for g-seats, your solution seems to be the only complete system in terms of generating g-forces across all major aspects of the torso. The other prominent products on the market fail to generate meaningful forces across the front of the torso, and also the sides for the most part. Considering these are the two aspects that feel the highest g-forces in a real race car, I am not nearly as interested in competing products.

    That being said, if I was forced to choose only one of your products, I would choose the g-skull for the reasons you mentioned. However, I am definitely hoping I won't have to choose! A few days ago, I finally ordered all of the parts required for an SFX-100 build, which will only be truly completed with the addition of the g-seat/g-skull ;)
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    BlazinH Well-Known Member

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    Thank you @Philip K , @Chipless , and others for you support and patience. My fathers elevator is working now but I still have to finish the final details and painting. I'll post a picture of it for you when its completed. However I still have to make a 500 mile trip (1000 round) to deliver it to him and set it up so I'll be tied up a bit longer before I can concentrate again on this project :( so probably about another week of :popcorn.
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  4. Chipless

    Chipless New Member Gold Contributor

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    @BlazinH Thank you for the update, and I look forward to seeing the pics! I hope the trip went smoothly. I will make some more :popcorn in the meantime :)
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    As usual I under estimated the time it would take to build an elevator just like I do when building motion simulators. So I just made the trip today and will be installing it in the next day or two. I didn't have time to make a video of it in action before I left home but will take one after I install it to show everyone. Then I will be excited to get back home so I can again concentrate on G-skull development and other things :). Thanks for understanding.
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    Agree, life can certainly get in the way.
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  7. BlazinH

    BlazinH Well-Known Member

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    Just to let you know I'm still mostly out of pocket until this weekend when I will post some photos to show what I made (just didn't have time to shot a video). My dad's home now but is still mostly immobile so I've stuck around longer than expected to give him a hand and to work out home health care services for him.
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  8. Sven Schubert

    Sven Schubert In progress of planning my 6DOF

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    I think that this is amazing! I have only one Question:
    what are your plans at pricing? Because I think that the success will be quite dependent on the price.
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    Success is always dependent on price; if its not enough you go out-of-business and if its too much you go out-of-business. I listed ballpark prices on the first post. Do you think proposed prices are too high, too low, or just about right in order to have a viable business?
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  10. Sven Schubert

    Sven Schubert In progress of planning my 6DOF

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    I think these prices are adequate for,
    1. (from what I can tell) the product you show and
    2. for that business/industry.

    Would have just liked to see some more entry-level prices. Not specifically from you, but in general. Because I think, especially for younger people (16+), the beginning can be quite hard. At least moneywise if you don't want to start with "crap"(tbh).
    Specific example: A friend of mine your love to start sim racing but not without a motion sim or similar. In his opinion just a wheel + wheelstand is just not realistic enough for him to be interesting.

    But that is an topic for another thread.
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    Hi again and thanks for asking. Yes, after quite some delay I’ve restarted further development of G-skull :).

    Here’s a photo of what kept me tied up (sorry but time was just to short to do a video).
    dads_porch_elevator.jpg
    It looks simple enough but it always seems to take me forever to do things. This is partially because I spend more time designing and engineering than doing these days because I don’t like to have to redo it and then have it look hacked up . Also in this case I had to make sure I took everything I needed with me in order to stay on schedule. As it is I ran out of time to make a handrail on the left side of the deck but its really not that high anyway. Btw at first I was only going to make it large enough for someone to stand in but a foot wider and it would fit a wheelchair too if needed so I said what the hell.

    As far a G-skull development I ran into an issue after modifying the headstrap so it would be compatible with over-the-head strapped HMD's too that caused the surge actuator to come off track sometimes. So after some thought today I welded on some additional parts that should fix the problem but it will be tomorrow before I have time to test it.
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    Great to see you have your father's needs sorted, that must make a huge difference in his life :thumbs

    I am looking forward to the next G-skull development installment.
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    Looks great! Hopefully, your dad won't need a wheelchair anytime soon, but I concur; definitely worth adding the extra foot for one.

    I finally received the last of the parts for my SFX-100 build (Coronavirus causing all sorts of logistics problems), so I am hoping that a G-seat+skull combo is the final touch once I assemble everything and get it setup. Realistically, I think I probably won't have things done for 8 weeks given my schedule, so hopefully a lot of progress takes place on the g-seat/skull in the meantime ;)
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    I don't think there will be much of a market for a one-half DOF head system though o_O.
    I personally don't like that that one appears to tighten the belts as the head simulates acceleration; it's backwards in my book but to each their own.


    Well G-skull is working better than ever now but I had to modify my over-the-head HMD strap modification a couple more times to get it right :roll. So you can move your head all around to look at the apex or to locate a bogie again without surge derailing :cool:. Next I just need to figure out how to make a cowling to tuck everything under :think.
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    Looking forward to see how this progresses! I'm thinking of designs for my own head g system these days so inspiration is always good
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    I have a quick question about inertia mode. While you are using your muscles won't it feel like you are getting pressure from the wrong side or is the force to light?

    Also given that the flaps are much more to the side is there much back pressure left for the surge ? How well does that work in inertia mode?
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    Sounds good. How have you done the connection? Easy to put on? My idea for it is sort of a ball click in system so you can all the forces but can easily turn your head