Beginning of my new simulator

Hi all

Im looking for some basic direction in regards to my project.

I will be building a 2DOF platform simulator with as much movement as i can get...

the cockpit and driver should weigh approx.6-700 lbs

I will be using Tronic's controllers for the motors

Questions:

1. what DC motors should i get to move this platform?? (can wipers move that much weight??)

2. This is for Tronic can you list for me the latest greatest designs for your electronics and maybe a parts list of stuff needed..

3.Will i be able to play rfactor games specifically the legends mod with x-sim and tronics designs??

Hi,

If I did the conversion right, your cockpits payload weights around 300kg???? Thats seems too large to be able to move around with just wiper motors!!

Currently my DSMhb, cannot handle very large currents without some modification and good cooling. You might want to wait the new h-bridge that is on plans and can handle up to 100A continuous current 24V motors. Then you will be able to use as large motor as you want that meets the specs of you motion cockpit.

BTW what is you motion simulator looks like? Is it something close to the joyrider style?


You can use x-sim sofware with rFactor. It works!


Regards, Thanos

Hi Thanos i think you just opened up a can of worms LOL is there a nes version of your H bridge coming out because i was just about to Buy 3 MDO3 Motor Controllers For MY Plane Motion Platform and would rather spend the money on your new design if it will be out soon you 1st one works a treat and hopefully post a video this weekend to show my version of your rumble z axis test :clap:

Hi Guys thanks for responding i will be taking a legends car frame and body

minus motor, rearend, misc. uneeded parts and mounting this to a driveshaft center pivot

I will be adding a 24 Monitor and speakers to the unit...

I will try to find out exactly how much the chassis without all that weighs...

how can i attach pictures to my posts???

edit:: nevermind i see it...

New Pics

*thread moved*

Wow, that's pretty cool. I really hope you wont shipwreck due to undersized actuators. I really would like to see this beast moving well.

hint: Elektronikjack uses a DC h-bridge which he has gathered out of a forklift from junkyard. Maybe you are able to dig out something similar.

How much are you going to spend on motors and gearboxes btw?

Have fun!
Christian

Hi mohawk24

http://www.x-simulator.de/forum/zweiplaetzer-flugsimulator-t811-40.html

I started a quiet similar project half a year ago. I also tried it with wiper motors but theses motors haven't enough
power for a platform. Even with only the platform the H-bridge was very hot after a short time. Please don't spend your
time in that solution of the problem. After my first effort with the wiper motors i changed to 1.1kW AC servo motors.
There are not cheap and not easy to get even if you need controllers for it. But if you get some for example by ebay
you have enough power to blow up your whole platform ;D Another advantage of my controller is that they have an
analog input, so you can use the 0-5V output of the X-sim software. There's still a little software bug but I think sirnoname
will fix it

Hope I can convince you not to make the same mistake as me and directly to start with high power motors ;-)

Greetings Andi

Plan is to use the biggest dc motors i can find that R-eng/Tronic's new motor controller can handle..

trying to keep cost to as little as possible however i have to have motion so my threshold might rise.... :brows: :brows:

On another note does anyone have any suggestions as to how i might be able to test how much force is needed to tilt my platform??

use a libra/balance
and fit a piece of wood between libra and simulator.
regards ad

does anyone have any specs for the following???

I searched everywhere and have not been able to find anything to help me...

Model NS33N-152B-18-MF1-FT1-B3S
Model: NX152B-18-MF1-MT1-B3S-361P

they were originally made by IDC however that company has went out of business..

Hi mohawk24

very impressive project !!!

i have some of this big 3 phases 24Volt H-Bridges left ( i think you can use it for 50Amps (up to 100Amps ?!?), Peak current of the Switchers is 440 Amps).
if you whant to use it with the tronic controller you have to talk with tronic about a litte
change in the software.

But you have to think about a AC-Gearbox motor with a motor-driver.
If you finish the complete car the mass, that have to moved by the motors, will grown.
You can move the light seat-sim only by one hand and the are normaly balanced in the center of gravity.

bye dirk

Re: Beginning of my new simulator-UPDATES

Here are some updated pics of my simulator

I suppose he will use the SJ200-015-NFU VFD drives for that huge motors. We were talking about possible issues in interfacing it yesterday...

The motors come from a store here in canada called princess auto....

they are fairly cheap $ 180 canadian dollars so $1.50 anywhere else LOL....


I will definitely be using Tronicgr's AMC 1.5 with the tweak to control VFD and AC motors...

my platform is pretty big and heavy...

I originally planned to only use a 19 monitor but i managed to shoehorn in a 24 LOL :

i have some (3PH) DC Motor (up to 24V) Bridges left!



try to build the car in the center of gravity to reduce the needed force for the movement and make the system fast !

bye elektronikjack

Thanks for the advice electronicjack....


I have built the platform so that all weight is balanced over pivot point...

Steering wheel and pedals are adjustable to keep the driver positioned correctly...

DC motors while strong enough....unfortunately I feel that only AC motors and drives will be sufficient to move my platform at the speed that I desire..... :brows:

Tronic and R-eng are currently working on a high power bridge however I don't think that even 150 amps would help me...thus the decision to go AC...

with the tweak that Tronic has made to the AMC to allow AC control I will be OK....


I will have 3ph motors by this week still trying to find all parts for AMC or find someone willing to sell me one premade....

Motor take two.....


I had noticed a fatal flaw in my original plan of action I had acquired 2 motors both were 1phase, my platform requires 3phase to operate with VFD's

I have fixed that by purchasing 2 3phase motors from ebay....

marathon 1.5 hp motors made specifically for inverter drives...with heavy duty insulation for heat protection....


I'm looking for someone on this forum to sell me an AMC1.5 fully assembled and tested....

question the motors have a shaft on either end...can i use either end ?????