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Question Any suggestions to improve this build?

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by markshanks101, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. markshanks101

    markshanks101 New Member

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    Hi, I used to play racing sims back in the early days (Indycar and the first thrustmaster wheel/pedal set). I was then fortunate to race Rotax karts for a number of years. A few years back I got a cheap force-feedback wheel and hated it, so I've been waiting for the hardware and technology to advance to the stage that it is worth getting back in to sim racing. It looks like that time is now, with the HP Reverb G2 soon to be released. Here is my proposed build based on my research so far...

    HP Reverb G2
    NLR GTTrack
    NLR Motion Platform V3
    NLR Traction Plus Platform
    Buttkicker Gamer 2
    Simucube 2 Pro
    Ascher B16L-SC
    Momo MOD 30
    Heusinkveld sim pedals sprint
    Heusinkveld sprint baseplate
    SRS Power Wind
    Nvidia Ampere Graphics Card

    Anything missing or other options I should be considering that would improve it?
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    With that sort of list you should also consider either parasitic or motion driven harness tesioners.

    See the FAQs here for an examples of a motion driven harness: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/harness-tensioner-simulation.361/

    A parasitically motion driven harnesses is usually attached with springs or bungie style elastic cords, so it has a bit of give, with the tensioning being via the motion of the rig.
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    I've not tried the buttkicker gamer 2, but I've tried the buttkicker mini life which I don't think is to far of. It will of course depend on how you mount it, but I found the buttkicker mini lfe too weak and they also gave of a nasty rattle a (piston pang) at certain frequencies.

    With the mindset that more is more and more is good, I bought 4 buttkicker LFE's (big ones). Now I don't have to worry about overdriving them, they also feel alot meatier and vibrations feel powerfull enough to aproximate the vibrations that run through my RL car when driving over bumps.

    That said the buttkicker gamer 2 is a good place to start to familiarise yourself with transducers and try out the different effects. If you find it lacking at some point and want more ooomph the buttkicker LFE is the modell I found satisfactory. I've tried buttkickers and Clark synthesis transducers (silver and platinum models) in many different configurations.
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    This is a great suggestion! Doing some searching, I found that Boosted Media has a youtube video showing how to setup a parasitic harness using the NLR Motion Platform V3. According to the video, it is not only easy to do, but works really well. I cannot add an external link due to being new to the forum, but others can search for "seat belt tensioner mod" by Boosted Media. Thanks for the advice!!!
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    Just to be clear, does your setup include the NLR Motion Platform V3, or are you using the buttkicker's alone? My idea is that the buttkicker will only be for basic vibration/engine noise, while the Motion Platform and Traction Plus will be for any of the bigger movements.
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    PetroVitallini Member

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    Hello! I have 4 prosimu prs200 actuators attached to a 80/20 rig. The buttkickers is placed one in each corner. The actuators pick alot of detail, but doesn't do the vibrations that spread through the chassis of a car. People are different and I'm a bit fuzzy I suppose. My experience is that the more motion components I add, I end up in a simulator uncanny valley where I notice more if something is missing or feels out of place or wrong. I would argue that a quad setup for transducers is not that important when you have motion as well. I think I could do with one at the pedals(most important for me), and one near the seat. My issue on my rig was that the smaller buttkickers didn't provide a realistic sensation when it came to the force felt. Anyways, I think you have a great setup lined up and after you get some hours in it you'll notice if you want to improve something.