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Adding 2DOF motion to existing PLAYSEAT rig?

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by nolive72, May 1, 2019.

  1. nolive72

    nolive72 New Member

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    hello, new member here from Japan.

    This kind of request for advice might have been asked on this thread but I could not find it so apologize in advance if thats a repeat.

    I have been building my 1st Simrig since the beginning of the year going with a PLAYSEAT Evolution now sitting on a plywood board with industrial casters simple yet effecient DIY.

    My rig is indeed sitting in my private Office with a rather small available space (roughly 8sqm) and I am switching between gaming on Triple screens or TV if the Sim does not support triples well (ACC do you hear me....) so I needed compactness and mobility altogether

    I think the pics attached are self explanatory for you guys to figure out.Its a cramped space but I think I have managed it well for the 2 intended purposes.

    Last month I decided to move one step more far with immersion adding bass shakers (2 DAYTON pucs) under the seat.Once the Japan holiday are finished and I go back home,I will add one more puc on the back of the seat and one puc under my pedals plate.


    All the bass shakers will be driven by a 5.1 amp on the hardware side, and SImhub and VMB for the telemetry tactile effects.
    Tactile feedback has been a fantastic upgrade to my whole simracing experience.


    Now my final step (wishful thinking maybe...) is to add motion to my rig.

    I had narrowed down my Options to NLV3, Prosimu T1000 3DOF and DOFreality M2 seat mover or H3 rig.

    I am pretty much sold on the DOF MS2 after a lot of reading this week between going for a seat mover or a full rig motion, but I am open to suggestions hence my post here on what seems to be the best forum for motion adding.

    My 2 main criteria are keeping the footprint of my rig as small as possible but also ensuring mobility so I can switch between TV and triples and also park the rig on one corner of my small Office space.

    I understand the DOFreality MS2 has specific mount for my Playseat but I am concerned with packaging constraints due to motors and arms creating possible clash with my DAYTON pucs as well as the amp driving them.

    I am also a bit concerned with how the plywood board would cope with the actual motion effects. The 2 caters at the back have brakes but I wonder if that would be sufficient to keep things stable while driving long runs.

    Also potentially concerned with the strength of the plywood getting hammered continuously with pitch&roll movements.

    I have plenty of other considerations in my head at considering the validity of my initial choice and how to execute it, and I am even thinking a bit ahead with how to add traction loss down the road , although I understand the DOFreality MS2 dont offer that path, but yes this is where my head is at right now.

    Its a long post already so I apologize again, but I need to mention that I play mainly AC, ACC, PC1&2 as well as RRE if that helps with directions&advices.

    thanks so much

    Olivier

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  2. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    You have a number of options you could consider.

    Full Frame Vs seat Shaker designs each have their pros and cons, and it often comes down to personal preference, see here for different views: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/full-frame-vs-seat-shaker-designs-which-is-better.213/

    You could create a DIY 2DOF from your existing Playseat, or add traction loss, search for existing Playseat based projects for inspiration using the Google Custom Search function on the Recent page: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/find-new/posts?recent=1

    You may also be interested in other compact rigs and ideas, here is my compact simulator, which has the footprint of an office chair: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/dx-compact-simulator.5866/

    And @HoiHman's folding rig: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/folding-portable-simulator.97/

    And finally @mazak515's electrically operated portable simulator: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/electric-foldable-wheel-simulator.90/

    If you are thinking about motion and transducers you may want to check out Game Vibe for controlling transducers from within SimTools (still in Beta but very flexible): https://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/simtools-v2-game-vibe.201/

    I can't speak to your DOFreality related concerns but @Radioproffi is the creator of the DOFreality rig and should be able to give first hand advice about the M2 and your concerns.
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  3. nolive72

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    thank you noorbeast, much appreciated:thumbs
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  4. Radioproffi

    Radioproffi Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Hello,

    Unfortunately, bass shakers need to remove, there will simply be no space for them under the chair.

    The strength of the plywood will be enough for the SM2 due to the limited movement and speed of the platform itself.

    I would recommend to look at the model H2, it compact as Playseat and you can also attach wheels for transportation and with bass shakers. Also in the future it will be possible to improve to the version with three axes.
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