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Showroom 6DOF Build (Bodine Motors, Sabertooth, FlyPT Mover)

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by BondeX, Mar 10, 2016.

  1. BondeX

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    Updated: Hey guys, so I will be starting my 6 DOF build using 42A3BEPM-E3 motors.
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    Hi,

    Look at this motor (350w 60rpm 45Nm).
    You can ask for a special shaft. I ordered with dual shaft, this is very useful and very good quality !
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    @BondeX look at the datasheet :
    12V 300W : 40Nm
    12V 500W : 50Nm
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    12V 180W= 50-60Nm is impossible. This is most probably the brake torque, so it means half torque ;)

    I have 24V 120W 25Nm too and it's true.
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    Yes but they are very expensive :confused:
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    Yes, 1370.00 USD...for that kind of money I would go with AC to be honest.
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    Even at 700.00 each I would still go with AC. That is a very high price for 12v motors....
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    OH!!! Now that makes sense :)
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    Sorry, I cannot give you advice for this purchase. I built my 6DoF with winch motors. I do look forward to seeing what you come up with.
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    it all seems so expensive still though. I picked up 9 motors for less than $500. I would think there is some less expensive route. I would think less than 100bucks each is out there.
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    These motors are good (120W 40rpm 25Nm). You need to use them on only 120° to get a good speed.
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    A purchase is always your own decision. But if it were me at twice the cost I would stick with pgsaw, based on known real world use and the positive feeddback from members like @shannonb1 and @Nick Moxley who actually use them.
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    after a brief search Ive concluded its "slim pickins" right now. pgsaw may be your guys.
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    Alright motors aside. Here is what I will be ordering and the links where I will be ordering them from. Please let me know if I should make any changes. Thanks

    12 Ball Joints M12-1.75 ($45.60): http://www.aliexpress.com/item/4pcs...ight-hand-tie-rod-end-bearing/1559309095.html

    Threaded rods to go with the ball joints. Should be plenty strong for silent chill type 6DOF
    6 M12-1.75 x 1meter Threaded Rods ($62) :


    Which MMs to pick, ebay could get me my money back if they are bad. I think.
    12 MMs ebay ($92): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-VNH2SP...124107?hash=item3d0105374b:g:UooAAOSwd0BV0wBq
    or
    12 MMs Ali Express ($75): http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free..._3&btsid=24dfad66-a103-495d-8d45-5e407a94002b

    4 Arduino UNOs ($21.91) :
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ATmega3...623468?hash=item3aa96d6aec:g:1EMAAOSwuMFUdtk9

    6 Hall Effect Pots ($82) : http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...rtualkey57700000virtualkey858-6127V1A360L.5FS

    Not sure what kind of shaft coupler to get for mounting Pots, which should depend on the type of motor (Either Bodine or PGSAW)
    6 Shaft Couplers ($33) :
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/6Pcs..._3&btsid=50187861-79fc-42e9-8459-f4d456f0ba91
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    Go with the pgsaw I would if it was me not too bad of a price, I was lucky to get my motors for free ;)

    The MM's are hit and miss with the clones/copies you will get some faulty as they all come from china, so I would order a few more than you need.

    I would also go with the 180 degree pots if I was to buy again no need for 360
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