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3 Servo mini Sim Rig build

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  1. Chewwie2

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    To start I would like to say hello to everyone.
    I am moving towards a full scale build and have built a mini (semi to scale) simulator.
    The idea is to use 3 motors and a centralized telescoping post with a universal and locating dampers on the full scale unit. No monitors (Oculus) but want to be able to switch flight and race controls easily.
    I am unable to drop a pile of money on this. I do want to do this as good as I can, within what all of us here on this site consider a "Reasonable" amount. Which may be questionable. None the less off we go!!
    Ok the be clear I have no experience in software nor code. I have limited electronic knowledge.
    What I do have is some drafting and building skills. along with a serious desire to get this project to the finish.
    Ok enough babble.
    I have some pics here of my comp and current static rig (had to include for humor)also of mini the build for your consideration and advice.
    Ok. Made it this far...
    I got it moving quickly with an old Helicopter Radio system and was getting good articulation. So I moved on to Arduino and botched up the code provided in downloads. Thank you ve
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    This is what my device manager shows. If anyone has a good idea on how to clear this up it would be great.
    Thanks again, Chewwie2 20180310_121514.jpg
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    Hi Chewwie2

    I like your idea and was wondering how you are doing with it. Quit good modeling skills.
    I have just started thinking of building a sim and trying to decide on which way to go. One way is doing what you are doing except I was thinking of putting one servo/dc motor/stepper on the front and two on the back. My other idea
    is to more or less follow the "LifeBeam Flight Simulator" idea with a few changes.

    At this stage I am not even sure what I will be making the frame out of. The options I am considering right now depending on the rig is PVC/80-20/steel. PVC and 80/20 I have plenty of experience with. Steel not so much even though I have
    a Lincoln mig welder I have never used.

    Like I said before I started rumbling, I like your idea and the way you are approaching it, please let us know how things are going.
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    Hello. I have been busy on cad design. Then work happened a bit. I have ordered and received brushless 3600 rpm motors fitted with 100:1 planetary gearboxes. These are from China and cost about $350 usd/unit with drivers. Engineer there tells me can run on 20 amp 120 vac. We will soon see. I have decided to get a 3d printer to prototype my small parts and gear/positioning pot. I am not an electronic guy. Geez I am gonna need help. lol . these motors will be as power ful as my truck I guess if all is cool with power supply. I will add pics and a full description of the parts. but I believe 150 NM per @110vac. Please let me know if any insight with this type of motor.
    Many thanks to the staff and pats of Xsim. Chewwie2
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    looking forward to following your progress keep us posted
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    Here are the parts that I have come up with so far. any body have any ideas about how to use these ones for my simulator. once I have these tested and working properly. I have included the pic that the manufacturer sent for a wiring diagram. I would be grateful for any help that you guys could have for me. Also what kind and resolution for a positioning feedback potentiometer would you recommend?
    Thanks for the help and support guys,
    Chewwie2.

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    Also here is a pla printed main timing gear and motor arm. I am still unsure about what the final material of the arms will be. Any suggestions are welcome. I plan to use petg for the timing gear set. I just printed these for proof that my sla files are good.
    Thanks again peoples.
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    Allot of stress on those components - use thick machined/cut steel, or thicker aluminium. Try to keep away from gear driven feedback pots, as there is always some slack in the gears - direct drive off the output shaft is best. Plenty of examples on this site. Just for interest, why did you go with that motor/gearbox/driver setup?
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    Thanks for the interest Seat Time.
    I decided to go with these motors for a couple of reasons really. one , and the main reason is getting high amperage power supplies that run on 120vac are very expensive to get here. second, After the price started getting up there I wanted to get something that would be powerful enough to use along with 3 more for a much larger future 6 motor set up. Thank you for the advice about using a direct drive pot. I was hoping to use the gear set as the limit stops at the same time, your suggestion would allow me more freedom on the width of the arms. I am still working in CAD on the chassis design, I have flip flopped several concepts so far.... Can only see more changes to come. I am compelled to get it somewhat right.

    Thanks again, Chewwie2