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2DOF starter here with questions

Discussion in 'New users start here - FAQ' started by hazardic, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. hazardic

    hazardic m3gt2 fan

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    First of all, i should tell, that i have never had any mover sims, so this should be my first experience, and i know just only basics - but not actual specifics. Right now i have a static rig https://www.flickr.com/photos/125925336@N06/sets/72157650763435926/ (it's nice though, i love it).
    I've already asked such question on ac forums, and finally i've lead Nick Moxley's advice to enter this community, because I need some help and advice. I finally found dof mover and in a couple of mounth I'm gonna buy (it should be within 15 aug, i don't actually have it now! Damn...) a custom built 2-dof mover with 2x SCN5-100mm actuators. Tho owner (I believe somebody here may know him) provided me photos and schematics, which were used to design and build it, so I'm attaching some of them here.
    I like how the rig was built, it's not so fancy as simxperience stuff but I guess it does the job. Besides, I have no ability to built it myself or buy factory made dof mover.
    Controller functions I guess by this www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121333
    Psu is 108W (24Vx4,5A) - I have no any more info now
    Rs485 ru.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FTDI/USB-RS485-WE-1800-BT/?qs=nE/gAoToukEKIIQwhDYwQw==

    Well, i'm going to use it with AC and all this tech looks not so easy for me. The owner said to me, that I just need to connect mini-pc to my main pc, fire up mover psu. But I still lack of knowledge, what else should I do in terms of connecting main pc with mini-pc, which I guess manipulates actuatirs? Please forgive these funny questions, because I thought it should be some sort of plug-and-play, but browsing the forum I've found, that it is actually a "serious business".
    So I just wanted to know, before even buy this rig, is everything in place for me to play it, once it will arrive to me? Of course, once I have it, I will ask the community more, but now i want to be completely sure, that I could be able to play ac via this 2dof mover.
    I've also want to add simvibe kicker on the bottom of the seat (I found that buttkicker gamer 2 on my current rig loves to rattle in rrr3 and pcars, but in ac it's awesome though)

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Psu
    [​IMG]

    Mini-pc as controller
    [​IMG]
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  2. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Going on what I found here it seems it is configured to use SimTools: http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://forum.simracing.su/index.php?showtopic=1445&prev=search

    Do confirm that with the seller.

    If the rig is configured for SimTools then the basics of getting it going will be pretty simple, but you will still need to do things like set up the interface and motion profile in SimTools and patch AC for motion. The community will help guide you but it pays to do obvious things like read the SimTools documentation, so you have a grasp of the basics: http://www.xsimulator.net/simtools-complete-documentation/

    Do feel free to ask questions along the way, the community here is very active and supportive.

    There is a glossary if you are not sure what something means: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/
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  3. hazardic

    hazardic m3gt2 fan

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    Correct, it's for simtools, that's why I asked in related topic. Thanks for the links
  4. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

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    As far as we can tell everything is there that you will need. the Ad noorbeast posted from the Seller has a link to this site, so we can only assume its Simtools based. If he hasn't ridden since 2012 there will be some updating you'll want to do but not much else aside from customizing your own Tuning center and profiles in general.
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  5. hazardic

    hazardic m3gt2 fan

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    Thanks! I really hope i will be able tu fire it up with your help, guys
  6. mjhmy

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    very goods.
  7. hazardic

    hazardic m3gt2 fan

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    After so many negotiations (and 100% confirmed purchase), today the seller has just refused to sell the sim, because he realised how precious it is.
    And now guys, the project is cancelled for me, I don't even realise completely know, how it is bad for me, I've had so many plans and wishes..
    I guess this is some kind of fate to be at the ground and not able to fly
  8. GTHQ_koop

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    That sucks..But you can always build yr own now ;)
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  9. noorbeast

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    I can imagine that you are very disappointed @hazardic.

    You can still consider building a simulator of your own, it may seem daunting but each of us here started out as a newbie DIY sim building at one stage or the other. The community here is very supportive and there is a huge amount of information available.
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  10. hazardic

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    No, I can't. At current state I can only use pre-built rig, I can barely find the time to play ac, so that's almost impossible to find a time to educate building diy dof
  11. GTHQ_koop

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    Same as I did...I've also got no room or time to build one myself :(
  12. hazardic

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    Yeah, I believe you also purchased it already constructed?
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    Yes, was also advertised here..I'll keep my eyes open just in case :)
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  14. hazardic

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    Suddenly have found this dynkit.com/en who can tell me is this rig worth buying (if they could deliver of course)
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    Thanks for the info, I see this is one of you guys!
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    First time dof. Movements seems a bit sharp for me gonna tune'em. Anyway, this is my first real experience in motion, so i don't really know how it supposed to be.
    Want to thank @Radioproffi to make it happen - thank you buddy! It was a hard work from his side, i know @bsft doesn't approve such help with diy projects, but while i did want such experience there was no spare time to create it by myself.
    Now i'll to sleep cause the whole day was assembling and testing, more info later if someone is interested
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    @hazardic , looks good there ,and profile writing will take time to sort.
    Not sure how you got the idea about " i know bsft doesn't approve such help with diy projects, but while i did want such experience there was no spare time to create it by myself. " Because this forum is about help. So kindly double check your words. Ive been helping people for 4 years and possibly hundreds of spawned builds.
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    No, no I'm very sorry if I said about it like this, and you understand it like some sort of negative. You was very helpful even for me, while I was reading the forum, thinking about movements, and you are the person who has a great attitude for being helpful.
    No, I just was under impression when there was a somebody's topic, asking about "easy-peasy"
    diy kit, so as far as I understand, your position is quite strong about it - if you want it, go get it, the rest is just excuses (considering your own situation) - and I do agree with you, this is almost identical position with mine (at least, with sports and law cases). And in my case i'd like to have just a little more spare time to built it on my own - but after reading the forum I decided to make this kind of shortcut and ask for a help of neighbor @Radioproffi and if the project will be successful for me on terms of experience, I get more knowledge and wishes, and more importanly - I will know where and how to start, becase reading main forum for me sometimes is like meeting a crafted pro people while myself is just a boy from school:D
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