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Question 2DOF newbie, looking for help

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Christopher Hemmings, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. Christopher Hemmings

    Christopher Hemmings New Member

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    Hey all

    As the title suggests, im a total noob in motion sims.

    Been reading a bit and looking to start with a 2dof, with the ability to add at a later stage.

    I understand I need the following
    2 x motors

    Sabertooth motor controller

    Server Power Supply

    2 x potentiometers for feedback

    Is there anything else. other than the usual metal rods, plates, bolts etc.

    I currently have my setup in a gtxtreme v2 cockpit frame.
    and would like to keep the unit as compact as possible, as i do need to slide this in and out of a corner to the computer desk.
    Would it be possible to have a setup with a metal frame underneath this current rig, with all motion parts on that frame. and then have this current rig on top of a uni-joint, theoretically making the entire frame a motion frame, instead of just the seat.

    I weigh 120kgs, would my weight, plus the weight of the frame, wheel, pedals, shifter be too much for the 2 motors specified earlier.

    What is the cheapest way possible of getting this done, sourcing parts either locally or online, from australia. I dont mind using second hand parts, but im not sure where to even look for these, or is new the way to go.

    Please help

    Cheers.
  2. Christopher Hemmings

    Christopher Hemmings New Member

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    Couldn't post links, but looking at the motors from motion dynamics
    motiondynamics(dotcomdotau)/worm-drive-motor-12v-24v-200w-180-rpm-20nm-torque.html
    sabertooth from robot gear
    robotgear(dotcomdotau)/Product.aspx/Details/903-Sabertooth-2x32-Dual-Motor-Driver
    server power supply like the following
    ebay(dotcomdotau)/itm/HP-Power-Supply-379123-001-1000W-for-HP-DL380-G5-370-350-G5/123048031293?epid=1717652425&hash=item1ca63bf43d:g:qhcAAOSwQPtavISK
    and the frame is this one
    pagnianimports(dotcomdotau)/next-level-gtxtreme-v2-racing-simulator-cockpit-chair-694.html
  3. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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  4. Christopher Hemmings

    Christopher Hemmings New Member

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    thanks for that. I was also looking to modify the current frame, and have 2 longer rails mounted to a metal frame up near the shoulders, that way the leverage is easier on the motors, I would need to find the balance in the centre of the entire current rig to get the balance correct though first i assume.
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    Christopher Hemmings New Member

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    has anyone had luck using car windscreen wiper motors, Ive seen this mentioned a few times. But not sure if they would be cheaper, or just as good as the linked motors from motion dynamics
  6. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    You can have a friend help you find the COG, as you will need to include yourself and all peripherals: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...-of-gravity-to-balance-a-motion-simulator.55/
    Wiper motors are not as powerful as those from Motion Dynamics and wiper motors need some additional attention such as ground isolation: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/wiper-motor-mandatory-ground-isolation.25/

    It sounds like your rig + user will have a considerable amount of mass and hence the Motion Dynamic motors are likely to be better suited.
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    Christopher Hemmings New Member

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    Thanks very much for that.
    Yes the mass would probably be the biggest thing, as im quite hefty myself. Although I already have the rig frame, and would rather use it as it would link the pedals, and seat together,
  8. titomaky

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    hola amigo, te recomiendo que uses limpiaparabrisas 24v ya que son más potentes, estoy haciendo mi proyecto con estos motores ya que mi peso es de 110 kg, para eso tienes que usar dos fuentes de alimentación y conectarlas en serie para obtener el 24 v
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    Christopher Hemmings New Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion

    I can probably just power them from a 24v power source though couldn't i.

    If i used 24v wiper motors, what motor controllers would I use?
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    [Quote = "Christopher Hemmings, mensaje: 154.937, miembro de: 29674"] Gracias por la sugerencia

    Puedo probablemente sólo alimentar desde una fuente de alimentación de 24V aunque no pude.

    Si usara motores de limpiaparabrisas 24v, lo que los controladores del motor debería utilizar? [/ Quote]

    Voy a utilizar el IBT-2, ya que pueden trabajar con voltajes que van de 6v a 27v. En cuanto a la fuente de alimentación se puede utilizar una sola fuente de 24v con 700 vatios, que en mi caso voy a utilizar dos fuentes de servidor de 12V a 700 vatios y conectarlos en serie para obtener el 24v