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To facilitate the production of high-precision potentiometers cheap Hall

Discussion in 'DIY peripherals' started by fzxj520, Sep 30, 2015.

  1. fzxj520

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    Subtle changes in position of the magnet will affect the accuracy and range of the potentiometer
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    This is a Hall sensor model I used:SS495A or SS495A1

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    Hello,
    Thank you for this tutorial photos, succinct and clear mas especially international
    What Hall component reference is used?
    What is the accuracy?
    Does it can operate with a voltage of 0V to 3.3V?
    Do you have a datasheet of this component?

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    Merci pour ce tutorial en photos , succint mas clair et surtout international
    Quelle référence de composant Hall est utilisé ?
    Quelle est la précision obtenue ?
    Est-ce qu'il peut fonctionner avec une tension de 0v à 3.3v ?
    Avez-vous un datasheet de ce composant ?
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    Edson Lourenço Bezerra Edson Bezerra - Desenvolvedor Open Source

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    translation:
    Congratulations, otimo material.
    Simple and objective.

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    Parabéns, otimo material.
    Simples e objetivo.
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    Hello ! This is a Hall sensor model I used:SS495A or SS495A1
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    Thanks for your answer
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    I already have a pair of hall sensors and a pair of neodymium magnets, so I will try, thanks!
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    Thank you :cheers
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    I just get interested in the datasheet SS495A sensors A1 and AE
    They do not suit me because I intended them to be connected to the analog inputs of 3.3V Arduino Due working
    These sensors apparently operate only from 4.5v
    My use of the Arduino Due to 3.3v I 1024 10-bit and 12-bit 4095
    Has anyone ever used these sensors 3.3v?
    For my part, I will look for references Hall sensor operating in 3.3v

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    Je viens de m’intéresser au datasheet des capteurs SS495A , A1 et AE
    Ils ne me conviennent pas car je les destinais à être branchés sur les inputs analogiques du Arduino Due travaillant en 3.3v
    Ces capteurs fonctionnent apparemment qu’à partir de 4,5v
    Dans mon utilisation sur l’Arduino Due à 3.3v j’ai 1024 en 10 bits et 4095 en 12 bits
    Quelqu’un a-t-il déjà utilisé ces capteurs en 3.3v ?
    De mon côté, je vais rechercher des références de capteur Hall fonctionnant en 3.3v
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    Thank you for your idea!
    Do you have an example of plain lowcost?
    No risk to lose response time using a 5v component instead of a proper component 3.3v?

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    Merci de votre idée !
    Avez-vous un exemple de plaine lowcost ?
    Pas de risque de perdre du temps de réponse en utilisant un composant 5v au lieu d'un composant adéquat en 3,3v ?
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    Thank you, it would be to try the A1304 using this type of case
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    But at the same price you can have an module ADXL345 3-Axis Output Module Sensor Accéléromètre Gyroscope for Arduino operating from 3v and to put directly on the dynamic simulator
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    To study …

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    Merci, ce serait à essayer le A1304 en utilisant ce type de boitier
    Mais à prix égal on peut avoir un ADXL345 3-Axe Output Module Sensor Accéléromètre Gyroscope pour Arduino fonctionnant à partir de 3v et à mettre directement sur le simulateur dynamique
    A étudier …
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    HI FREINDS
    ive done something like this with SS495A and two magnets, but it has noise with this setup
    that i donno how to cotrol this unwanted noise.do you have nose too ? and how to get rid of that?
    regards and thank you for sharing
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    I did something similar with Allegro devices and they are noise free
    http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/home-made-hall-effect-pot.7203/

    Sources of noise can be;
    Noisy supply to device
    Grounding/earthing issues between device and rig electronics (earth loop with 50 or 60 Hz on signal).
    Poorly designed device with no built in filtering or averaging.

    Ensure the supply voltage is well filtered with an electrolytic and ceramic cap across the supply close to the device. If the device itself generates a noisy output you could place a filter (resistor/cap) across the output. Your electronics should be 'star' grounded with care paid to ground and 0 volt plane separation.
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    This comes from other websites, I didn't try.


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    Un problema que nos podemos encontrar con los "potenciómetros" una vez instalados es que por más que intentemos eliminar esas pequeñas vibraciones no lo consigamos, aún incluso variando los valores que nos ofrece el programa XSIM o el Software de Prilad.-

    Normalmente ese problema es originado por las denominadas "corrientes parasitarias" las cuales crean movimientos no deseados (vibraciones) de los motores al no tener la "señal" (patilla central del potenciómetro) una estabilidad correcta.

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    Podemos intentar solucionarlo/afinarlo instalando un "condensador" de unos 100 nanofaradios (100 nF). Necesitamos conectar la patilla central del potenciómetro (señal) y la patilla de tierra (GND) al condensador.-

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    Gracias a "PETAR2" por la aclaración.-
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    thanks for sharing . i think @SeatTime has suggested something similar to do with the pots too if there was some noise.

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    One problem that we can find the "knobs" once installed is that even though we try to eliminate those small vibrations do not get even even varying the values offered by the XSIM Prilad or software program.

    Usually this problem is caused by so-called "eddy currents" which create unwanted movement (vibration) of the motors not having the "signal" (center pin of the potentiometer) proper stability.

    We can try to fix / refine it by installing a "capacitor" about 100 nanofarad (100 nF). We need to connect the center pin of the potentiometer (signal) and ground pin (GND) to the condenser.