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Do you wiper motor 12-volt 50 -watt Enough to run the emulator

Discussion in 'Motor actuators and drivers' started by moon310, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. moon310

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    HI

    I bought three wiper motors
    Written on 12-volt 50 -watt

    Is it possible that the Have fun in playing simulation
    I run motor on adapter 14 volt 20 amp
    It was his speed Not too bad

    The question is

    1- Is it possible to be used in the simulation Or it's slow

    In the wiper There are Five wire
    Two of the engine and The other three
    For sensor or that Encoder

    2- Can I Benefit From the Encoder Instead of potentiometer


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    worked linear actuator motor but
    Failed completely
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  2. bsft

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    wipers should be ok to test them with
    with the 5 wires, not sure, you will have to put straight 12v on them to find the faster speed of the wiper
    Remember that the wiper MUST be earth isloated.
    Start witha pot if its cheaper and work with encoder later if you like.
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    RacingMat Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    Are you really sure there is an encoder?... :think I would rather say these extra wires are slow and fast speeds.

    There is no need of encoder to drive the wiper motors in (old) car.
    Neither for our simulator: we need absolut positionning! hence a potentiometer

    I'm eager to see your linear actuator working :)
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  4. moon310

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    As he Said @bsft There are two speed of the motor
    I try to work linear actuator Will be Demo And Attach the Project
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  5. bsft

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    well done, you have gotten further with your actuator process than me.
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    Another question
    Are these three engines capable to carrying of a 90 kg

    Or you will lose speed

    Does motor I need more than 50w
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    no idea, Id guess from what Ian at BFF did and he uses 200 watt motors.
    But use the wipers as a start
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    Good job, I work at poplolu jrk and wiper motor of vw golf without electronic inside. Very good work for me.
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    interesting @Chumet1 , would you be so kind as to start a new thread with your build then
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    Hi, I'm going to build my 6DOF sim, and I didn't found wormgear motor in my country, the only choise is wiper motor. but looks the power is not so strong, usually 50W.
    Have you vefiried your project? Do you think can 6 50W wiper motor afford about 100KG 6DOF SIM?
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    @Racing Mike - Post you are replying to was dated Dec 2014, it is likely the thread/user is not active anymore.
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    Yes, now l'm undecided with the motor, wiper motor in Chile, or buy wormgear motor eBay which is more expensive and more tax.
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    Wiper motors would be better suited to a shoulder mount seat shaker design.

    While there was a test 6DOF wiper based project I don't think wiper motors are really the way to go. If you are serious about investing time and resources into a 6DOF you don't really want to end up with one that has marginal power and capabilities.
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    Amigo del otro lado de la cordillera, si queres hacer algo bien, te diria que compres motores por ebay o por Alibaba, ya que dentro de todo, los impuestos que tu pagas en Chile, son bastante menos prohibitivos que los que tenemos que pagar en Argentina.
    Han hecho 6dof con motores de limpiavidrios, pero si tienes presupuesto para mejores motores, las diferencias son abismales.
    Otras opciones que tienes, son por ejemplo los criquets electricos que tienen motores de 120watts ( http://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC...n-llave-de-impacto-12v-2000kg-2-toneladas-_JM ) , contra los 50watts de los wipers, o malacates ( http://articulo.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-433725947-winche-electrico-12-volts-dw3-_JM ). Ambos son adaptables.

    Welcome friend, try to get the motors from ebay, as you have less taxes than here in Argentina. there are some 6dof made with wipers, but the difference with good motors are notorious. There are other options like winches or electric jacks.
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    Thanks Amigo. Usually the tax in Chile is 19%, but last time my friend bought some thing from China, Chile customs charged tax based on the cargo price in Chine, not in the invoice. finally my friend paid more than 100% tax.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/35106699238...11473&ext=27979&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext,bu=bu
    I prefer the motor on eBay, totally $960 include shipping, but I worried the tax.
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    Well, if that is the real tax, check locally for motors or just the gearbox, Im sure there are local "manufacturers", there are in Argentina, but even at 100% tax they are more expensive than buy in ebay. The only solution I fund are the electric jacks for 2 or 3 dof, or get winches and get gearboxes to adapt to them (just because the winches are loud and a gearbox makes them silent).
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    I think I need double check with customs before place the order in eBay.

    and the motor in eBay is only 180W, do you think is it enough for 6DOF sim with 100KG platform&pilot?
    and there are two model, one with 80 RPM, another with 160 RPM, I'm not sure 80RPM is fast enough or not.
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    80rpm is more than enough, I think that if you find even a strong motor with 40rpm is enough for a 6 dof. Anyway, before you buy, check @SilentChill and others 12v 6dof projects. I think 180watts is ok for a total of 100kg.
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    I'm worried 80 RPM the rotate speed/accelerated velocity not strong enough.

    I have prepared 6 750W PSU, in my original plan consider 600W motor in alibaba.
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