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Showroom DIY 2DOF simulator

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Erwan960, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. Erwan960

    Erwan960 Active Member Gold Contributor

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    After a first phase of tests, many adjustments still need to be adjusted, I am very satisfied with the result !
    I feel rediscover my cockpit : reduced response time, sudden acceleration, engine never bother ...

    By exciting the system, I had this kind of response :
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    Now I rather something like this :
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    In game :
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    I also confirm that the cockpit is still when power is off : tested and approved !
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  2. bsft

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    yep, all looks good. and yes the gearboxes are good, very tight and heavy duty
  3. ace4042

    ace4042 New Member

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    Awesome job! I think someone asked a month or so ago, but do you mind sharing what length your ujoint is cut to top to bottom? Thanks for the info. I am hoping to construct one similiar to yours.

    Ellis
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    Erwan960 Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Thanks a lot.
    What is ujoint ? If you want to know how much I have between the two wood boards : 25 cm

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    ace4042 New Member

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    Perfect! That is exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for that info.
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    uni joint should be cut so pivot is at the top.
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    ace4042 New Member

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    Thanks bsft. I am sure I will have plenty more questions.
  8. Tech2123

    Tech2123 Tech2123

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    Hi, My set up is real close to this one, when I connect the pots to the motors same side as yours, when it goes to center, it just jitters up/down both side never gets stable, I have the POTS connected to motor shaft via a hole in shaft and some hot glue to keep it from moving at this time, if I remove pots, motors center and stable, I can move motor fast or real slow via pots, motors turn opposite of pot turning direction. ITS is acting like a dirty pot (there bran new 10k cermet liner taper)
    To best describe the jitter, is like the motor told to got center, but shoots past and then told to go back and shoots past and does this even with everything hooked up, as well.
    I have lowered and raised TOI no go,
    Any suggestion on this?
    Im using Aurduion Uno 3, Moto Monster, big gear motors like yours, car battery, laptop to control uno, pc to control games, game talks and works the motors as desired (until pots fully connected)
  9. Erwan960

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  10. Erwan960

    Erwan960 Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Quick overview of the new motor and easy connection between the motor shaft and the potentiometer.

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    Tech2123 Tech2123

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    Are you wiring the pots exactly the same other then the Signal wire? Ex: Red, Signal, Black: left side. Red, Signal2, Black: right side?
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    Erwan960 Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Exactly the same. If not you can invert the feedback in the polulu software.
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    20131122_121124.jpg

    I use motion control motors as in the pic. Some people here say that they are weak. I do not agree.
    Also these motors can move very easily when powered off. Not that it matters to me.

    Soon I will post my project. Haven't done that yet because first I want to make a good video.

    greets Jeroen
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    My motors move with no power and again no problem
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    Erwan960 Active Member Gold Contributor

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    The motors move when powered off... but not with the gearboxes ! It's not the case with mcp4 25:1...
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    Strange... mine do
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    is it a problem in game with motion?
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    Erwan960 Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Small preview from the dynamic cockpit drived by SimTools. This is ProjectCARS on a triple screen configuration.
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  19. ericRacer

    ericRacer You get old because you stop playing ! Gold Contributor

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    very nice and clean simulator ! :thumbs

    how is the difference with your now gearbox ?
    the change of direction is definitely better but accelerating, is it about the same ?

    Are there less backlach with metal gears ?

    @bsft I know before you ever advise of motors / gearbox with 180rpm (25: 1), and now you seem to consider 60: 1 GB. can you tell us how you think about that, if it's better?
    From my perspective, I still think it's better 180rpm (25: 1) for a seat mover but as soon as the weight is increased (platform) has to go to 60: 1 gearbox. What you think and what are your feeling after trying the two?
    Eric :)
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    @ericRacer , I am not exactly advising people to use 50:1 or 60:1 over 25:1 gearboxes. It is when the weight, design of a simulator determines what is going to move it properly. And if more torque is needed, then yes 50, 60:1 is better.
    25:1 is the best for overall speed for sure, but if you are extra heavy , or the sim is heavy or not correctly designed, a higher torque gearbox is needed.