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Marki 3DOF With Winch - Sabertooth 2X60

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Marki, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    Hi All ,
    I work on a 3DOF For FlightSimulator, the principal utillity is for Condor 2,

    My Config,
    -3x Standard Winch 2000lbs 750W motor/1HP (153/1 planetary gears)
    -2x Sabertooth 2X60
    -2x Arduino Uno
    Specs;
    -12in Travel in Heave
    -Allow 45 deg in Pitch and roll



    Construction :
    -3D printing for positionning feedback parts (Yellow)
    -Laser cutting and CnC folding Sheets (Grey) After my built i will share the drawing and tuto to make yourself a command of lasercutting parts on a supplier)

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    In Blue its a 3DScan of my seat and me , you can see my big nose :)


    See my Drawing image

    upload_2021-1-13_8-1-12.png

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    @Flymen

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  2. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    Troubles,
    i succeeded to Connect The Ardruino and the sabertooth 2X60 on SMC3 with
    @BlazinH Tuto, i Use the SPS_8.2 Soft Start.
    upload_2021-1-13_8-32-14.png


    I Resolve With @Flymen My first Trouble , To enable the connection on the Mover Output Serial , you have to close the SMC3 setup. i learn your com4 or others ports Cannot use with 2 application in same time :nerd

    Now im blocked to Connect the Ardruino and the sabertooth To Flypt Mover
    upload_2021-1-13_8-28-31.png

    When i move the Simple Direct cursor , the Binary change at the bottom Output serial page , but the motor dont move?
    Im direct on Flypt mover , i dont pass with Simtool . This is the Trouble ?

    Many thanks

    @Pierre Lalancette
    @pmvcda
  3. Flymen

    Flymen Flymen Gold Contributor

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    @noorbeast , Need info with the last question ?
    Im direct on Flypt mover , i dont pass with Simtool . This is the Trouble ?
    Thanks !!

    Ps. I never received your post on my mail ( Alert ) here . I dont know why !
  4. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    I am sorry but I don't get what you mean, are you asking about @Marki's issue with FlyPT or an issue of your own?
  5. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    i explain my problem in video




    @Pierre Lalancette
    @pmvcda

    (P.s @Flymen you dont recieve the notification because my tread was blocked beacause i put a weblink to SPS tuto.)
  6. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    My trouble is Fixed ! All work, i test with condor 2 game .

    My trouble was, i fogot to put [ A < ] in output line [A<Axis1a>] .

    upload_2021-1-14_8-47-22.png

    I thought I could click and drag the axes, and it would work like that, but we have to add[ A < ] to work

    Thanks to @Pierre Lalancette and @Flymen to help me! :):)
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  7. Pierre Lalancette

    Pierre Lalancette Sir Lalancelot Gold Contributor

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    Glad it worked.

    I don't see any limit switch to your design. Is it something you thought about? It is quite important. I do not recommand to do any moving test without it, once the rig is assemble.
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  8. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    @Pierre Lalancette
    Thanks for your recommendation.

    I'm curious to know How you have connected your limit switchs?

    I have planned a emergency stop with 200 Amp relay.
    Does your limit switch cut the main power or you have another alternative?

    Thanks
  9. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    Limit Switch Drawing Done

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  10. Pierre Lalancette

    Pierre Lalancette Sir Lalancelot Gold Contributor

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    The way I do it is a closed circuit in all the switches (5 volts) that drives one relay. This relay drives 6 relays (12v) that let the power goes to the motors. If a switch is triggered, the circuit turns open, there's no more curent to any relay and all stop.

    That's my way.
  11. Marki

    Marki Marki

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    My Wiring Diagram

    (not tested)

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    Flymen Flymen Gold Contributor

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    Hi ,
    Your power supply switching is 24 v dc motor 12 v dc ?
    With your power supply 24vdc you can drop maybe at 18-19 v dc if you play with the potentiometer !
    Don’t forget the batterie 12 vdc on your wiring Diagram .
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    My final and tested wiring for emergency

    @Flymen

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    it looks good! like a LEM
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    Assembly is finish!

    I had a terrible backlash as a problem, I fixed it by adding is elastic to keep the arm down and I widened the rodends in the top and centered my position



    Now , my problem is the power supply, i use truck 12v batterie and standard batterie charger (25 amp). but when the battery is in charge , it smells of sulfur. im not sure that good for health . i need to change my power supply . any suggestion for 3x 750w motor DC in 12v ?

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    Hi ,

    Here is the final result of my platform motion

    it largely exceeds my expectations, contrary to what I thought it is silent !! and respond well to the little jerk like the rough terrain when I take off or the bang when I land! that's great!!





    I fixed the backlash problem with 4 bolt here ,
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    and for the battery I reduced the leveler of my winck from 8 "to 5" now to draw 10 Amps continuously on the 12v. this is very good and my 25amp car charger is more than enough

    i added Rudder pedals With arduino code
    https://www.ingeimaks.it/come-creare-una-pedaliera-joystick-con-arduino-uno/index.html
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    I recommend this platform to all of you! I am impressed with his performance

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  18. Pierre Lalancette

    Pierre Lalancette Sir Lalancelot Gold Contributor

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    Great set up. Small and compact, all the opposite of mine.
    Congratulation.
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  19. Flymen

    Flymen Flymen Gold Contributor

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    Nice Work !!!!
    I’m waiting your invitation to try this new toy .;):cheers
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  20. Mauro Sebastian Panfili

    Mauro Sebastian Panfili Ruckus

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    Hi Marki, I found your project looking for information on CONDOR SOARING SIMULATOR 2. I fell in love with it, congratulations! You have done a professional job! I am from Argentina and I have not found any builder who is fond of only flying racing cars. It would be an honor if you guide me to start my project. What type of motors do you recommend? I think it is the biggest investment in the project. Thanks for your time . Greetings!
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