FFB Brake pedal ?

it seems the brake pedal is the most important pedal

most pedals you buy have poor resolution and dont get harder to push the faster you go

is it possible to have a brake pedal that is connected to a servo so the pedal simulates a real car

when braking it would be good to feel the pedal pulsing if you activated abs or lost traction

how would sim tools activate this type of actuator / motor ? does RF2 transmit this type of data ? can braking data be extrapolated from the available data ?

interested to see what peoples thoughts are on a FFB brake pedal

Hi interesting approach, but really useful? A butt kicker simulates the abs as well, also I own a load cell brake pedal which is controlled by a 12 bit controller - high resolution guaranteed and combined with the butt kicker it feels pretty much real. IMHO the real feeling of a brake pedal is g-forces dependent at least, in a real car when applying the brake we have centrifugal forces. These forces are giving us the feedback how the brake works.

There are several things you can do with a brake pedal to get either a better feel or more feedback. I use a 'GTeye' modified spring in my logitech pedals to give a non-linear response. There is also an inexpensive pretend load cell mod by 'Truebrake' that looks interesting and doesn't cost the earth.

As far as feedback goes, I'm a big fan of the brake mod by AMstudio which adds little rumble motors to the pedals. These can be configured for anything from road bumps to triggering when you lock up the brakes or spin the wheels in acceleration. Granted, this doesn't give a real life response but it does give great feedback and most important is fun to use. It's very customisable such that you can have an analog scale of effects and different combinations of the large and small rumble motors to give different feelings for different effects. I don't think there is a way of having the rumble only trigger with ABS as far as I'm aware, but you can link it with wheel slip or wheel locking. I use the Simhub software alongside Simtools for the rumble effects. Simtools doesn't yet support the little rumble motors as far as I'm aware though does have GameVibe for bass shaker effects.

Thanks for the advice guys

I might relace the arm of the pedal with a load cell that works against a rubber pad

The rumble motor is a neat simple idea and can give the needed feedback

I will investigate the mods suggested and simhub also

in the end I modded the brake pedal and fitted a Hydraulic Cylinder and pressure transducer

it feels very realistic, just like a real car

so if i was to fit a rumble motor to the pedal to simulate abs - do i use gamedash to activate it - how do i isolate the abs lockup data from RF2

is it easier to use simhub instead ?

I have not used gamedash or gamevibe before - do you have to use an arduino/board to interface with the motor

@yobuddy - what is the best way to convert an ABS event and intensity to a motor ?

@noorbeast what is the best way to convert Abs into vibration ?

Is simhub the right way to do this ?

cheers - i knew you would know the right approach !

The truth is that motors do not give the same feeling as a real abs. The abs are pulsations on the pedal and not vibration. A microsolenoid would not be bad instead of a motor vibrates.

use simhub and somt xbox controller vibration motors. works very well. you would need an arduino uno and a motor shield as well

i have a ps vibration motor it might do the trick

ideally i need a solenoid that pulses the hydraulic fluid - a real abs solenoid may do the trick but i don't want this to turn into a complicated project just yet - got plenty of other stuff to do

Well my idea is that the solenoid hits the pedal to the metal part but for the solenoid to act quickly and not slowly you need an arduino motorshield. But of course this would put a lot of noise of metal hit. The idea that you put is much better.

i am going to revisit the ABS pedal effect soon - the idea i have is an event for abs on and road speed

the higher the road speed the higher the frequency of the vibration motor

how can I get gamedash to ouptut the correct information for ABS and Road Speed ?

are there pre mapped variables or do you have to write a config file for it to use ??

is there an example of how to use gamedash ?

Right now I am using rumble motors an arduino with motorshield and simhub.

are you using RF2 ? is the ABS flag available

Can you adjust motor speed based on road speed ?

I am not using rf2 but simhub if it supports rf2 and if you can adjust motor speed to speed ratio among many other parameters.