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Bug After Windows 10 update to 2004 (from 1909) Intensity Slider problems.

Discussion in 'SimTools DIY Version' started by p00ky, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Damien

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    Always the same, so I went back to the 1909 version.
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    Today I raced again in iRacing with win10 2004 version - 100% gain and no changes to my profile

    All worked well. I was on canadian mosport track which i havent run in a while and it felt like it was maybe slightly rougher than previous races, but that could've been due to the track's configuration itself.

    No issues found still good on Win10 2004.
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    thanks for all the reporting guy's, im sure we will track down the issue.
    Take care,
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    Im not sure as I simply opted to turn everything up to 100 and havent looked back :)

    It would seem that some people have an issue but not others and no one has been able to come up with a reason why this odd behaviour happens. If your at all worried, rolling back the update is very quick (the install not so much) so if you find you have trouble you can get back to 1909 in the time it takes to make a coffee.
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  5. Michael Jeffries

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    Ye i use the gain at 100% as well and havent noticed any issues. Ive raced at least 10hrs worth since the update and probably more, but its not as others are saying it is. I did notice some strange bugs that popped up, but nothing that a reset button didnt fix. So far so good here as well.
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    Same problem for me with a Prosimu 2DOF and windows 2004! I race at 99%, it's acceptable but anything lower is pretty much like no motion and at 100% it's way too brutal... the gap between 99 and 100% is unreal, it's like the curve is exponential :(
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    Glad to see this thread. My computer held off on the update and told me Windows wasn’t ready yet for my hardware. It finally updated about two weeks ago and I noticed this in DCS too. If I sit quiet I can feel tiny movements but not near the same as I felt before the update. I hadn’t had a chance to look into it yet but this sure sounds like the same thing.
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    Hey, guys.
    For those of you with that problem, has anyone tried again since?
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    Yes same problem as today... I just gave up on SimTools and bought a Sim Racing Studio software license.... I don't think I'll ever look back!
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    Hey, guys.
    I tried again with Windows 2004 and simtools 2.4.1, still the same problem.
    So I stay in 2004 but I drastically lowered my values to get a correct rendering. 70->35, 60->30, even 70->20.
    On ACC, it looks pretty good.
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    I have reports that you need to reboot after the upgrade (even thou it reboots during the upgrade).
    Also a clean install seems to work fine also.
    Take care,
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    Hi Yobuddy.
    I just tried to completely uninstall simtools then reinstall it but the problem is still the same.
    Below 100%, the jacks(cylinders) are soft and slow.
    I only have ACC, I could not test on other games.
    It's strange.
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    I have exactly the same problem with Windows 10 2004. Big problem under 100% intensity level...very very slow. Very big latency. 100% it''s too big. With 1909 version, no problem. I reinstall fresh version of windows 10 2004 with iso and boot key... No way, I have always the same problem. It's crazy...
    Do you have an idea @yobuddy for this problem...Since a moment already....

    Thank you
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    Hello drivers, i think same problem me to, when i use the smc3, al work perfect. But when i test in simtools ( output testing ) the slider under 0% not doIng anything after the -90% and react to hard for the position and for get back need to move the slider by at least the 1% Positive position,
    0 to 100% positive work “fine”
    Win 10 64bit pro (2004)
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    Mobo: x570 msi 3600amd rz 3gen

    I’m in the same page? I mean this is the error all we have?
    Better if i intall the 240 version simTools?
    Or need to made a new thread?
    Thanks guys!
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    Hmm The idea is always going forward, i have a original win and all licenses original to. I hope this be fixed soon.:thumbs
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    Well so far so good,
    I uninstall simtools 2.4.1
    i see windows 10 have another new update on frameworks (2004) so i installed.
    just reinstall the later version of simtools 2.4.0
    All works great.
    Hope this helps someone.
    Maybe it's the last version of simtools on win10(2004)
    Just for the record that’s was my steps.
    Good race guys!
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    Wow! I have exactly the same problem! I just rebuilt my sim PC with fresh windows and Simtools (so 2004 and 2.4.1. Weird other issues too - DOF Axes will only go positive, not negative - Or they do but don't hit the % needed to move and then 'jerk' like you describe.

    So you rolled back to 2.4.0 and it fixed it?
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    Amaizng , i see we are on a clearly on a bug.
    Yeah man. That’s what happened .
    I update again windows ( Whith the hope on this update fixed the problem , but not) so i decided uninstall simtools and every file on my newpc and go back to the 2.4.0. And with no mistery , works . o_O
    Yesterday i run a complete a race with not problems. ( but i think it’s react differently or now it’s just me ) like the lowers inputs are soft and the harder to harder. Or i’m getting picky :eek:

    Tell us how it’s work for you.
    Good luck !
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    Me, it's quite the opposite.
    With simtools 2.4.0, it worked very well on Windows 1909.
    When I switched to Windows 2004, it was not working well.
    So I installed 2.4.1, but no changes.
    That's strange.
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    mine was a 2004 fresh build so i cant go back to 1909 but i have not had a chance to try 2.4.0 yet either
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