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SimLab GT2 to 2DOF conversion.

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by iLLuac4, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. iLLuac4

    iLLuac4 Active Member

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    In this post I will show you the conversion from SimLab GT2 rig to 2DOF.
    First I have examine the options on how should I have done it since the problem is that the GT2 rig is compact and I did not want to make it biffier. I have got a lot of usefull info from this build https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/my-project-2dof.13425/
    This was the original look of it.

    First I have tried to design the mechanical things to be able to mount motors and design the arms/shafts for them. Since the pictures says more than thousand words this is the result of the temp solution I have come with. It is still not 100% fixed but till now it looks like it will be the best one to mount the motors to the rig.
    The arms are made out of alu and are adjustable. A was able to design the rig so that the whole platform will be just around 5cm higher.

    To mount the pots to the motors I have designed the mounts for hall pots. You can find the files on https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3921212 Some were downloaded from other designs like for the e-brake.

    To mount the seat I have used a pivot mounting bracket that you can also see in the pictures with ruler so you can get the impression how big is it.

    I will be also able to fit the bassshakers to the rig. They will be mounted under the seat and will be able so transfer the shakes more efficient since they will be in direct contact with seat mount and will not transfer the bass through pivot mount. They will be also cooled since they can get hot.

    Since those motors are not self locking I am going to use some kind of belt tensioning to keep the seat in center.
    For now I am happy with the look and feel of he mount design of motors to the rig and my next post will be how I have designed the control box unit.

    Here you can also find the list of tools, materials and parts (pots, motors,....) I have used:

    IWS-2820M Crimp Tool (good one):
    https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4000073000826.html
    Small usefull wire stripper:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/DvvK68Gkqe
    Step drills:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mm3m6Iv4VZ
    Punch Spring Loaded Marking Holes Tool:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/3GDK6Zm1RR
    Crimping tool for terminal and wire stripper:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KmmGg8v6Q7
    TS100 soldering iron:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KKKGhSeDdF
    Coupon code: BGATS100
    TS-BC2 tip for TS100 (best tip in my opinion; better than conical one):
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/GvK36SvePq
    Soldering Tip cleaner:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/G33D0Zm6SR
    Power supply for TS100 (print custom case, many on Thingverse).
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mKm3093MQT
    Power jack for TS100 5.5x2.5mm connector (To build flexible power cable use silicone wires, they are heat resistant and flexible):
    https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32778311364.html
    Simple TS100 stand:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vDDKe9369W
    Silicone pad for soldering:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/K3Dmg9KMuZ
    Quality soldering wire (do not buy cheap one). Mechanic is a good quality product:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KvvG6S3BIL
    Quality small srewdrivers:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/DKm3gS3gOH
    Printer I am using:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vKvGg9vgep
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/3Dvvg8v4B2
    Universal Hole Drill Tool
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/DvvDBZGuvQ
    Pliers:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/K3K34i3k64
    Heat gun usefull for tube shrinking (be carefull to buy the right one 110V or. 220V):
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KKKKBIGU1R
    Programable DC converter, very usefull for testing when you need different power voltages (you can use above power supply for TS100):
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/Gv3K683zAB

    Material I have used in the build:
    Hex Socket Button Head Screw Nut
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/3KG308G6Lg
    KBPC5010 diode for power supply protection:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/D3Gm4SvenU
    PWM 12V Fan Controller:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vmG368mBEV
    DC-DC Coverter for PWM 12V fan controller:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/DmKv4I3BdS
    Silicone Wires:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vKDK09vgyO
    Jumper wire:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mKGDg9v0Ys
    Arduino with enought GND and 5V pins:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/v3mKeSv6CK
    Pin headers:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/DDvG083eCr
    Pin header connectors:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/GmGGgIK4pi
    Rocker switch with light:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/3KmKg9D0cA
    Fuse holders:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vmD36ZK45y
    Fan grill Guard:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/DGDv0ZKg5J
    Nylon standoffs:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mmDme8m4ZN
    M3 screws:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vvDmgIKe9U
    M2/M2.5/M3 Stainless Hex with head:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KK3GeiD0iw
    Washers:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/vK3DB8G60D
    3-pin header surface mount for potentiometer - G12:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/GDvGgSK4Ad
    EC C14 Male Plug for motors:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/mmDK08D4si
    3 pin plugs for motors:
    https://es.aliexpress.com/item/33011026947.html
    Wire Jumper Pin Header Connector Housing Kit
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/GmGGgIK4pi
    Power Socket:
    https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32819079244.html
    Terminals insulated:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/GDDv6SmBu5
    GT2 Timing Belt for potentiometer (200mm belt):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Round-RepR...de-2GT-for-Pulley-3D-Printer-CNC/391891520997
    BTS7960 43A Peak Power H-Bridge PWM
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BTS7960-43...iver-For-Arduino-Smart-Car-Robot/192213373047
    Motors 24V 75 RPM:
    https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32719954216.html
    Potentiometers:
    https://es.aliexpress.com/item/33059491619.html
    Shrink tube:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/3vG3gZvq0F
    Pliers:
    https://www.banggood.com/custlink/K3K34i3k64

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  2. iLLuac4

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    The second stage was to design the 2DOF control box.
    I have used old box that was thrown away and modified it to fit all the components.

    Below you can see the pictures but basically it has a 24v 600W power supply, 12v fan controller box with alarm if the fans stops spinning, 2x silent fans, 2x IBT2 pwm controllers, ardino, kill switch connected to 220v with front mount diode to signal if kill switch is active, 5010 diode to protect from power supply tripping and illuminated on/off switch.

    Front plate, arms, fan brackes and some other parts were 3d printed.
    Before the final assemble it was painted.

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    Now the next step is to test motors outside the rig, final mount the gt2 rig, create balanced tensioners and also apply for the SimTools license.

    If someone needs some additional pictures or. parts info, I can post them.
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  4. Dion Phillips

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    Awesome!

    I've been researching doing this to my GT2. Will be following closely, thanks for sharing!

    Quick question, what's the part detail for the seat mount and motor arms?
  5. iLLuac4

    iLLuac4 Active Member

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    They are custom made. My friend did them for me. Source files for arms are available on thingeverse.
    For pivot mounts you can see on the pictures with the ruler how big they are. I can measure them for exact numbers. I have draw them quickly on the paper and he made them.
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    Today I have got the license for the simtool. TNX about that. Now I have to earn enough coins to be able to download plugins :( Is there an option to get for testing just f1 2018 plugin and dirt rally 2?
    Maybe it is a stupid question but is donating of coins possible :/
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    Nice work. You now have enough coins to get a download package then you can download all plugins. :cheers
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    Oh thank you very much for coin donation.
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    Here are a few more pictures with length info of 4040 profiles used.

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    Hi Iilluac how is the build going have you tested yet?
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    427Cobra There is no substitute for cubic inches

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    Nice work! Looks very good! :thumbs
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    iLLuac4 Active Member

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    Hi. No not yet. I have a lot of real life work :( and kiddos to manage.
    And I am also waiting for some additional parts like springs and special bolts from Aliexpress. Hope those will balance the seat. Otherwise I have received the license so I only have to find time to do it.
    But will keep you posted so you can also build if you would like to build it.
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    iLLuac4 Active Member

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    Hi. I was busy so my project stall. I also have to order some other parts like special screw, tensioners, audio jacks for bass shakers. During the development I have burned two motor drivers :). The cause was wrongly configured motor parameters in smc3 config utility. So for all the makers configure motors before mounting them.
    Here are pictures of the project where you can see the near final product. Since the platform is now 5cm higher I will also lift pedals for around 2,5cm (will 3d print spacers) to compensate the high. I still think that raising the platform for only 5cm is a very good result.
    Also have to do some additional fixing of the screen holder and complete the wiring to be as clean as possible.

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    Nice work, some real craftsmanship making your rig so neat and tidy :thumbs
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    iLLuac4 Active Member

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    Hi. Here are a few small modifications in pictures. May bee someone will find any ideas for their project.
    - 3d printed mount for Orico usb hub https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KK3mqjCLlZ
    - standoffs for monitor to eliminate vibrations
    - mounts to fix monitor angle made out of children toys (black painted and mounted - those with four holes).
    - 3d printed raisers for pedals to compensate additional high that was introduced with raised seat because of motion platform.
    - charger for phone going into orico usb hub (this one will be also used in the future for additional gear - diy handbrake https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/diy-handbrake-from-aliexpress.14000/ (have to figure how to mount but it is already working), small and compact wind simulator made our of four x355x server fans - POC already done).
    - fans for basshakers are controlled from the old zalman panel mounted in the chieftech computer housing and are controlled by 5v, off or 12v and are separated to front and back.

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    Wind simulator.

    I have made a small compact wind simulator. I did not want to use big fans because since sim rig is compact I have also to make a compact wind simulator. Have tested with server fans but they are too powerful and thy do need higher current to start.
    So I have used in this small project four fans from old x3550 m2 ibm series that was thrown away.
    Those fans uses 1,1A and 12v per fan. I have two on each side and all four outputs on arduino.
    The are very powerful. At 12V full power they are quite loud but I doubt that I will need full 12v power. With this setup I will be able to use four separate effects.
    The controller is standard with on/off button and external led (have removed the one inside). For mounting arms I have used flexing helping hands and inside them have made wiring so no cables everywhere.
    To make them strong I have also put inside the flex arm a stronger wire for support. For cable attachment I have used one side connectors. For fan mounts another two kids bricks were used. Drill the holes inside those bricks and insert inserts for screws. Parts in grey were 3d printed..
    The whole project was really cheap, I doubt that the material cost was more than 10€.
    The PWM frequency used is 100-400hz. ATM I have 100hz.

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    Made a small modification on hiding the wires into the alu profile so even less wires.
    Have also made a quick soldering fume extractor, need to add active ashes filter, but for now it is ok.

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    There are few more pictures with wind simulator mounted. I have to say that it works really great with 4 separate outputs since you can define corner and speed wind separately. It is very powerful even at low speed. I would recommend those vents since they are also small.
    I have also made a button to power on the computer since it is hard to rich the power button on the computer itself.
    There is also a photo of modded gas pedal that you can download.

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    Few videos of the system not fine tuned yet.



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