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MY SIM BIKE STEP BY STEP

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by monast, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. monast

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    with this Post start our X-SIMBIKE!
    we started a year ago with many doubts, One day my colleague from Barcelona Valentino collaborating in the project told me: I found an internet site that has everything you need, and when I say everything is everything!

    And so we met here!
    and Sirnoname, egoexpress & Thanos and helped us to understand and learn, thank you very much masters teachers!


    First we start with an idea that we project in Solid Edge to give way,


    then the biggest problem was to extract data from games of motorcycles, because they do not exist!
    Little by little that was a dream beginning to take shape and become reality
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKULMLVfTyc

    Thanos expect their help to end the copkit of the bike, I am very keen to try out this marvel!!



    Thanks a lot guys, is a tough job but the reward is worth!!
    Monast
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    Did you set the smoothness for each effect to 0? If not, try it please.

    Regards
    Christian
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    loses immediacy? and a delay in the response or not has nothing to do?
    Monast
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    All values bigger than 0 do increase the lag! It needs to be set to 0!
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    Hi Monast Impressive stuff indeed it never fails to amaze me how sim guys come up with great ideas and thank to the X-Sim interface, it really does seem imagination can run wild and makes these projects reality.. Keep it up guys.
    Big question now 8) what type / size actuators will you need to lift the bike up once its over at full tilt with the rider hanging off For dear life :) , i always asjk about actuators becuase am looking for something for my Aircraft simulator ( 2DOF Project ) :cheers:
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    I think your model suffers from the low Profiler1 speed of 33ms as well. With X-Sim² and faster speed your model will move much more accurate and smooth. But for now it is ok. You have to work on your simbike frame now, at first.

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    Hello, Egoexpress, This simulator is running with a profiler 2, as kids might get less lag?

    MOnast
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    If so, your profile needs more tweaking.

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    Hello Regarding the motors and actuators'm thinking of using two technologies, pneumatic and electric lift the bike because I need a lot of strength and a pneumatic cylinder diameter 50 or 40 would be sufficient because I do not find powerful DC motors that can withstand AVR Hsmb
    Regards
    Monast
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    Hi Monast
    hope you did'nt mind my asking, We can mechanically build our dream sims, But it always seem to boil down to finding reasonably priced actuators to move them, being the big stumbling block for th DIY Simmers. Great combination your thinking of. Thanks for the reply to my question Monast
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    Gradually the X-Simbike begins his first steps, many thanks Thanos and Sirnoname and now I'm missing the 3rd axis of lateral movement, its coming!!!!

    to improve movement and reduce oscillations I need to know the position of Potis AVR Thanos, I managed to double the port rs232 and the information would help me a lot, ¿ Thanos can you program AVR fireware to extract potenciometers information from 232?

    Thanos His work for the 0-10V control is fantastic, :clap: but how can control your AVR, 4 proportional valve using only the two ports, or do I need 2 AVR Thanos?

    Tanks alot guys!!!! X-Sim forever....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki_SdcG7Te0

    :cheers:


    Monast
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    Wow, dont forget the helmet !looks like a wild ride !
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    Lol. Thats cool. Makes me laugh when I saw it. :D Look foward to when it is fully done.
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    Hi Monast,

    Great video! :D

    To add another two axis you should better use a second AMC1.5 board. Xsim2 can support unlimited axis, so you can connect as many AMC1.5 controllers you want on a single PC (only limitation is the free com ports, but FTDI USB2SERIAL adapters will also do).

    The AMC1.5 works better with two axis since it can deliver two 10bit resolution (1024 positions) PWM channels, while the rest two available PWM channels are simple 8bit (256 positions)...

    As I remember, the firmware I gave you has also 10-bit USO parameters on it!! This way, you get true 1024 analog positions for your valves!!!

    As I said before the x-sim USO just sends serial data to the AMC. It cannot receive data!! For proper transaction of data between the profiler and the AMC1.5 a special plugin should be written, that require some effort from both Sirnoname's side as well my side to adjust the AMC firmware for bidirectional communication.

    Keep up the good work!!!! Can't wait to see it moving in Roll and Yaw axis too!!!! :clap:

    Regards, Thanos
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    Dear Thanos, we do not need that you send the potenciometer value to X-SIM. We need that you send to the COM port that value.

    After this, the game plugin, go to the COM port to read the value. X-SIM is not needed in this operation because it is not used. Thanos is very important for us to have this value. This would solve the problem of pndeumatic PID. I hope!
    You can do it!!
    :yes:

    Thanks a lot!!

    Monast
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    Hello boy, i make the same projec..
    Look here....
    http://www.racingfr.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31164

    I need to know what Game is it? SBK or SBK07 or SBK08...
    Because i use Xsim and SBK08, and i cant have information like a accelaration or speed or gear...
    Thank you...

    Im french...
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    Hello Dear Master Thanos, I had a lot of work and now I have time for my Bike simulator,
    Its circuit 0-10V proportional valve works well but the output voltage range is 1,03-9,8 V and 5.95 V in the center for this reason the valve does not work well in positioning, how could we improve for get in the middle 5V (+ -0.1) and in the end 0V instead of 1.03?
    I Food with 19V signal because I have 2 valves, one at each output


    If you can help me and fix this, soon I will send video with 2 AVR Thanos and 4 proportional valves running simultaneously in my SIM BIKE, spectacular, we are having good progress!

    Thanks a lot from Barcelona!!
    I send to you PM with attach file
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    what did you use for handlebars, and do they have force feedback and analog brakes and clutch?
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    hey guys, here you have the latest update, there is still much to do, but begins to be funny ... Thank you to all the team through the open door to creation. your work is wonderful SIRNONAME

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki_SdcG7Te0

    Thanks a lot Thanos !!!I need your AVR 0-10V converter is more precise, the center is 6.3 V instead of 5V and 8V not reach the maximum of 10V
    Think you can debug your circuit to get 0-10V

    Thanks
    Monast
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    Hi Monast,

    Amazing job so far!

    May I ask how much the porportional valves are, which you are using?

    Did you check if some SCN6 actuators could do the job more cost effective and precise?

    Keep up the great work!

    Regards

    Btw, congrats for kicking us out this evening :byecry: