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Plugin request for Il2 Battle of Stalingrad

Discussion in 'SimTools Plugins' started by frenchfly, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. frenchfly

    frenchfly Member Gold Contributor

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    I realize this game does not output telemetry but maybe can be done with memory hooks. I would be willing to purchase the game for whoever has the skills and patience to achieve this.
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    Hi @frenchfly, good to see you over here (I am Propnut on other forums).

    Unfortunately 777 has stated that telemetry is a "Luxury" that they have no interest in providing, as you mention. So I too hope that someone will be able to work on a memory hook plugin. I tried once to find them using a game cheat program but with no luck (Rise of Flight also). :(
    Historiker, Aug 12, 2014
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    I would like to see a plugin for BOS too and War Thunder as well.

    Unfortunately from reading the plugin development posts regarding memory hooks I would guess the biggest difficulty is that BOS and WT are both under current development, with lots of ongoing changes. Hence it would not be a case of just developing a plugin, there would be constant ongoing plugin changes likely, and as these are online games you can't stick with any static version of the games for a plugin.
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    Bos is not a strictly online game like war thunder, yes you need to sign in much like Pcars but it has single player gameplay and will have a single player campaign when complete.

    But I do agree it's not a complete game yet so the plugin would need updating I suppose.
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    What I meant by the 'online' challenge was about a lack of control over versioning, rather than actual gameplay form. It would mean most likely having to recreate the plugin for each version change...a huge ongoing task.
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    Any news from changing telemetry ...?
    thanks
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    Reviving this thread .
    They have implemented support for TacView, so some kind of export seems to be addet.
    Intruder, May 23, 2017
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    This is just for skinning the game thou correct?
    (I just don't understand why this guy (on the forum link you posted) gets so upset with his own customers. It just blows me away.)
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    Think you are talking about Jason, he seems to be the BoX project leader after selling the RoF game engine.
    This hack tool opens not only all the graphical files but also the onscreen clocks are showing and hidden files that can be opened by using wordpad.
    Dutch, Jun 8, 2018
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    what do the onscreen clocks show buddy?
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    I will post a screen shot next weekend. Please have patience because I have the flu, so I’m feeling very sick.
    I hope that I’m better this weekend.
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  13. yobuddy

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    hope you feel better buddy.
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    So I'm a bit better here is a screen shot. Below in white is what you see on plane speed. Do not get confused by the right upper corner, just some afterburner OSD-readouts to adjust for max performance.

    BoM.jpg
    Dutch, Jun 18, 2018
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    thx buddy, glad you feeling better.
    There if just not enough data there to build a plugin I'm afraid.
    yobuddy
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  16. BrassEm

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    I have just started flying BOS again in VR which is great, but sorely missing the motion that other sims provides. Tacview is now supported so I started looking into that telemetry as Tacview is pretty good. I still have not tracked down the UDP port just yet (56540?) that Tacviews listens in on to try and listen in on it as well. But it would appear that the raw data from BOS is just pos X,Y,Z and Roll, Pitch and Yaw angle (Have a look at the TacView .acmi file for the raw data) - Tacview then does all the calculations for G's etc. Has anyone written a plugin using just the pos X,Y,Z and Roll, Pitch and Yaw angle?
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  17. BrassEm

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    Scratch that. They are mutually exclusive. If TacView is running you cannot start IL-2. If IL-2 is running you cannot start TacView. It appears IL-2 is not included in the live streaming feature of TacView so that theory is shot. 1C are paranoid about online cheating so there will never be any live data export from IL-2 titles - Ever. Save your money for simulator software that does export data for motion.
    BrassEm, Sep 11, 2018
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  18. yobuddy

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    This is because all of the game code runs client side I believe.
    The server tells the plane it got shot by someone and then the plane takes damage.
    If the code ran server side, it would be better protected from the get-go.

    Really thou, how often are the titles updated anyway?
    Is there one that has received its last update maybe?
    It may be a good candidate for a memory hook plugin, as that is still quite possible.

    take care,
    yobuddy
    yobuddy, Sep 12, 2018
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  19. BrassEm

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    It would still just be pos X,Y,Z and Roll, Pitch and Yaw angle data. And the goal posts will always be moving though... Until no one flies it online anymore.
    BrassEm, Sep 12, 2018
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