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Question Pitch going to traction loss in AC

Discussion in 'SimTools DIY Version' started by Robdog, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. Robdog

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    Since my upgrade to Simtools2 the pitch data is affecting Extra1 in Assetto Corsa. I am not able to turn pitch off, it is not selected on any of the axes and no matter which axis I select for Extra1 it affects it. I have tried re-instsalling the software with no success. In output testing everything works fine, is there an issue with the patch?
    Robdog, Jul 17, 2017
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    Can you post pictures of all of your settings and a video that shows the rig movement and game screen at the same time.
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    noorbeast, Jul 17, 2017
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  3. Robdog

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    Below are the axis and inteface screens, none of the other DOFs have anything selected nor is there anything on the other interfaces.




    interface.PNG axis.PNG
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    I always felt that Extra 1 on Assetto Corsa was more a type of 'sway' force than a loss of rear traction and brought this up a long time ago. It was explained to me that this is the best that they can do.
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    SeatTime, Jul 18, 2017
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    I agree that it feels like a sway force and don't have a problem with it except where there are steep hills. I first noticed it felt wrong when driving at Donington Park so I tried it at Brands where the hills are steeper. In the video I increased the sensitivity on the axis and it is really disconcerting when the rig moves sideways when you are still going straight.
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    One thing I forgot to mention is the traction loss does work as expected should the back slide out. If I use pitch and Extra1 together Extra1 will mimic the pitch movements as well as working as traction loss.
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    Agree that it works when the back slides out, but for me it was also working as a sway when the back was not sliding out - I ended up not using it at all, as it never felt right - maybe it was because of this 'pitch' that you have found that I never really expected to isolate :think. I sure the developers will chime in when they have the time.
    SeatTime, Jul 19, 2017
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