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Elite Dangerous Horizons Plugin (Non VR Version) [Deleted]

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Sorry guys had enough troubles of my own lately, had to reinstall windows and have not had time to get everything installed. Need to get VB installed and everything else pfffff nightmare.

Has ED been updated to a new version since the big update ?

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Yep, two times already. Currently there are no fatal bugs, so this version may hold up a little.

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Yep, two times already. Currently there are no fatal bugs, so this version may hold up a little.
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Ok I will sort it as soon as I get chance
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Ok I will sort it as soon as I get chance
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Hi @SilentChill

Please help to update the plugin, we are currently out of motion and we're really missing the motion expirience in ED.

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Okay guys I have had chance to try and update the plugin but its bad news They have changed all the memory locations and how they are set out, all my notes I have made mean nothing.

Looks like they have gone back to how it use to be @value1 ?? all the Matrix's need to be found and all the math that goes along with it. Even after finding them and getting the correct pointers and then eliminating all the other drop outs that I had pretty much solved is going to be far too time consuming. All the SRV locations have changed and again all my notes mean nothing

Until they change it back again (if they ever do) I just wont have the time to sort it

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Okay guys I have had chance to try and update the plugin but its bad news They have changed all the memory locations and how they are set out, all my notes I have made mean nothing.

Looks like they have gone back to how it use to be @value1 ?? all the Matrix's need to be found and all the math that goes along with it. Even after finding them and getting the correct pointers and then eliminating all the other drop outs that I had pretty much solved is going to be far too time consuming. All the SRV locations have changed and again all my notes mean nothing

Until they change it back again (if they ever do) I just wont have the time to sort it
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EDIT: I will be able to make a plugin for Pitch and Roll only maybe Yaw if I can find it
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@value1 , @SilentChill

How we can support you to get a new plugin?
There're some players out there (including my self) who spend thousends of USDs for the seat extra for the ED game . For me would be the worst case if there's no change to get an updated plugin.

I would support If i can, and I think other guys here as well.
Let's talk about with all stakeholders to realize it again. Let's put all our effort together, some guys here can look for the right pointers some guys can spend money for pizza and beer.
Let's do it again guys ! We need you !

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Hi Craig,
speaking personally, pitch and roll is all my sim needs. I'm certain a patch for that would also be useful to others until Frontier Developments help us out with an api or at least the data for the motion (I wish) or try to use a common framework for future updates, like the old system, as you say.
Thanks again Craig for taking the time. If you can at least do a plugin for roll and pitch we'll be a happy crowd.
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SilentChill updated Elite: Dangerous Horizons Plugin with a new update entry:

Latest Update

Plugin only provides Pitch and Roll
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Anyone who wants to help all you have to do is the following

value1 said: ↑

Hmmm, so this will not be a tutorial for CheatEngine.
A) Pitch, roll and yaw are the easy ones.
You roll the spacecraft to the left and search for values of about 1.77, roll right and search for values of about -1.77. Repeat until you finally end up with 5 memory locations with these values.
Find a stable pointer to one of these memory locations.
-4 will be the yaw value and -8 will be the pitch value.

B) The more tricky values are surge, sway and heave.
In training mode accelerate the spacecraft forward and search for values < -1.1
Brake and accelerate the spacecraft backward and search for values > +1.1
Repeat this step until you have only a few memory locations which appear to contain the surge acceleration.

C) Unfortunately these values are in world coordinates. So you now have to find the transformation matrix.
This is a 3×4 matrix with all values < 1 and with
┌___________┐
│fx fy fz f0│
│rx ry rz r0│
│ux uy uz u0│
└___________┘
│f│ = √(fx² + fy² + fz²) = 1
│r│ = √(rx² + ry² + rz²) = 1
│u│ = √(ux² + uy² + uz²) = 1
[u ] = [f] × [r]

So search for 12 consecutive memory locations that fulfil these conditions.
Once you have found such a matrix, check, if it changes when moving the spacecraft and make sure, it does not change, when you look around in the ship.

Again find the stable pointers pointing to the first element of the matrix.

Now as you have found the surge speed (and not the surge acceleration) in step B) you will have to calculate the acceleration by surge acceleration SA = ΔSs/Δt (with Ss = surge speed)

For the transformation of world coordinates to local coordinates the calculation is (in principle)
sx = Sx · fx + Sy · fy + Sz ·fz
sy = Sx · rx + Sy · fy + Sz ·rz
sz = Sx · ux + Sy · uy + Sz ·uz
s =surge acceleration in local coordinates, S = surge acceleration in world coordinates
The order of the f,r,u and s may be changed, depending on the coordinate system. You have to try, what makes sense.
And you're done.
You might need some time to find these values and pointers. It takes ma typically between one and two days…
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Nice info Craig -I'll start swotting up.

Thanks for the roll/pitch patch. I Just installed it......pitch works well but nothing for roll. Tuning center shows pitch game data being received but zero game data for roll hence no movement for that dof. I don't know if anyone else has tried it yet but if you've any suggestions -
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Nice info Craig -I'll start swotting up.

Thanks for the roll/pitch patch. I Just installed it......pitch works well but nothing for roll. Tuning center shows pitch game data being received but zero game data for roll hence no movement for that dof. I don't know if anyone else has tried it yet but if you've any suggestions -
Kev
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Yeah sorry it was a rush job I have Pitch Roll and Yaw sorted I will update soon
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SilentChill updated Elite: Dangerous Horizons Plugin with a new update entry:

Fixed Roll and added Yaw

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Hi,
I've swapped the plugin over to the latest and still only pitch is working. I get no motion in the roll. Has anyone else given it a try to confirm?
The tuning center is only displaying game data for the pitch axis only (elite horizons - latest version 2.3.02). No game data for roll though (or yaw). I'm certain everything at my end is good but really need others to give this plugin a try just to confirm. My chair works well with the joystick plugin so I've no issues with my s/w and h/w
I did have a quick blast in cqc and even the 1 DOF from this plugin was better than using the joystick plugin to move my chair (I also use oculus cv1). Just need to get roll working and I'll be well happy but I fear the issue still lies with the plugin.
(Thanks for your hard work Craig, Hope it can be sorted - )
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Hi,
I've swapped the plugin over to the latest and still only pitch is working. I get no motion in the roll. Has anyone else given it a try to confirm?
The tuning center is only displaying game data for the pitch axis only (elite horizons - latest version 2.3.02). No game data for roll though (or yaw). I'm certain everything at my end is good but really need others to give this plugin a try just to confirm. My chair works well with the joystick plugin so I've no issues with my s/w and h/w
I did have a quick blast in cqc and even the 1 DOF from this plugin was better than using the joystick plugin to move my chair (I also use oculus cv1). Just need to get roll working and I'll be well happy but I fear the issue still lies with the plugin.
(Thanks for your hard work Craig, Hope it can be sorted - )
Kev
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You will be right it's the plugin. I didn't have enough time to narrow the pointers down

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Same here, just pitch.

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Anyone who wants to help all you have to do is the following

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Here everyone try this the site is not letting me update the plugin ??? @RaceRay this has happened a few times now

Pitch Roll Yaw Sway Heave Surge should work, spaceship only, no SRV
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urghh its a bit ugly in a station you may get rattled around a bit with Sway Heave and Surge lol

and no movement in frameshift

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