WIP - 2DOF GT seat mover + Traction loss (wiper motor/arduino/MM)

Hello everyone,

so this coming new year im planning to do my self a 2DOF seat mover...most preferably using f1 seated position style. So i have spend almost half year reading and gaining knowledge how to build this thing. So yeah, please help me during my adventure yes?

this project is inspired by racingmat's Finished 2DOF 12V DC wiper arduino playseat
Link to his project : viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1617

he has very detail instruction so thanks racingmat!..without your guidance , i dont know what happen next.

and also to very big thanks to x-sim team for the AWESOME SOFTWARE!!! and its community that very helpful!!..i feel so awesome now!

i have ordered monster motor board 2pcs (1 for backup or for each individual motor)
Link to the shop : http://www.dx.com/p/monster-moto-shield ... GPOeBt95pg

next i will go find some useful wiper motors at scrap yard (or maybe a new ones).
SO what type of automotive wiper motor that should i looking for??...i read somewhere that finding the truck or minivan with bigger wiper blade should have a strong wiper motors?...it is true?..well im going for cheap solution first...i know there's somewhere selling better motor like motion control motor from aussie i guess?..well its kinda expensive for my budget...maybe next time
Minor Update : 30/12/2016
instead going for F1 seat position..i choose GT seating posing..less headache.. ..
i will be using the measurement from motiondave (thanks to him!!..i read somewhere in this forum about those measurement) and might be adjusting a little bit

So this a basic measurement that im going to use
Photo credit to motiondave


this is his final build using the measurement (i supposed)
photo credit to motiondave


instead of using screws and bracket..i decided to weld all the joint together..i already sent the design to welder shop..so wanting them to quote me price..

and owh yes!...my arduino UNO board is arrived!!!
i got it here : http://www.dx.com/p/uno-r3-atmega16u2-d ... GXvUht97cs
its a clone arduino Uno..what the heck..look same to me..so im going to use it


Same day update!
i have decided to add a traction loss and using GT seat style to my project

after look into this builder : @Brett Horton
https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/obutto-revolution-2dof-traction-loss.9224/

his build has traction loss which is im interested into..

is it possible to incorporate traction loss into seat mover?..if so...what should i do?..what is lazy susan?

hmmm...interesting...so i have decided to add the traction loss using wiper motor..going to redesign my draft now..

instead of using lazy susan..any other choice?

My system works awesome! No issues what so ever with the load distribution nor the traction loss.
Good luck with your build!
If I can help ask away

awesome..thanks mate!...btw your rig is superb..inspired me too

Great to hear!
I learned a lot from this website, Nick Moxley and Norbeast!
Tons of help available here

awesome..yeah seen their post everywhere..seem they are pretty well known here

2/1/2017
Happy new year X-simulator!!!

so today i have complete a design for my project..using google sketch up..take whole day to finish it!

Please let me know your opinion and idea..

this is my detailed measurement for traction loss and seat mover




Final product (if nothing to change)


Im not sure if i want to proceed using square tubing or going for profile aluminium 2020. I dont have exact measurement for front bearing (lazy susan or custom bearing with shaft) and U-joint..

I would decrease the angle of the traction loss motor to the linkage attachment point. Lower the motor a bit. you will lose some potential movement due to linkage geometry.

shall i move the traction motor beneathe the seat mover?..plus my estimation is only 25mm for traction loss front bearing length

Whatever needed to reduce the angle. You always want to setup your initial rods / linkages at 90 degrees if you are trying to accomplish equal movement both directions (we are)
You could rotate the traction loss motor 90 degrees down and accomplish this quite easily.

okey then..thanks!..i will look into during fabrication..thanks again for the tips!

5/1/2017

just a minor update..i have decided to choose aluminium profile extrusion 2020 as the material for this project..yes 2020 is a little bit small.. but im very positive that this tubing is more reliable the steel tubing with welding.



and for the front traction loss bearing...i have found my used bearing clutch from my old car...its height is around 3cm and 7cm wide...able to withstand so much force as its main function is to push and disengage clutch plate from flywheel..



so next is to do some cutting and remeasurement..

Distance from TL pivot isn't exactly ideal. Tho i can tell your going for as small of foot print as possible....some thing's like this will have to be forgiven...Bearing looks a tad overkill, but if you got it for Free, Who cares....just make it work.

yup i get it for free...and what do you mean by distance from TL..sorry that my english is not my native language..

Think to yourself.....where does a Real car pivot from in a Traction loss moment ? Hopefully that should help explain what im saying.

aah..okey..i understand..will make some adjustment later..but i get what you mean @Nick Moxley ..thanks

13/1/2017

So today my monster moto controller has arrive..i ordered 2 unit but i only receive 1 piece..going to check with the supplier...



Meanwhile i will procedd with the seat mover until i receive another unit for traction control.

Cant wait to complete it!!!

You should test those Monster Motos right away, because a lot of the clones are faulty. Not that you have to wait for replacements or not get a refund.