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[IN PROGRESS] 2DOF Wheel chair-driven Motion sim with Oculus Rift

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by zylle, Oct 22, 2016.

  1. zylle

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    I spent the entire day building the frame for my sim as I couldnt wait to start on it as I'm waiting for my H-bridge and Arduino to come in the mail :p Here are some pictures with some notes attached to them! No sketches were made before we started the build, but we had a decent idea of what we wanted to do. The motors are from a Jazzy 1122 wheelchair that we found that was going to be thrown out, so we salvaged it a few years back and found an awesome use for it now! :D


    The motors name are specifically Pride e660. I couldn't find any info on them except that they are 24v.

    Here are the base frame with one of the moros attached ( Sorry that i havent got any fotos before we attached them)
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    Only one was attached at the time of this picture as we test-fitted them, and then prepared them for mounting of the pot-meters afterwards.
    IMG_20161022_161957.jpg Heres the seat that we wanted to mount on the base frame, its an old racing seat that my brother had before he got a new one for his racecar.

    1477146015155.jpg Heres the entire frame, with the seat mounted and the wheel/pedal module attached, we wanted it seperate as it would save space in an already cramped up room if we wanted to store it away. Only the seat moves. IMG_20161022_195900.jpg 1477158793627.jpg

    Hopefuly there will be more pictures in the following week when i get my arduino and h-bridge, untill that, i still got some welding and stuff to do to make this frame perfect! :)
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    The steering wheel does not move much with a single long tube?
    Hoping to see your progress :thumbs
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    Thanks! :) And at the moment after some testing by moving the seat around by hand it doesnt seem as it shakes that much, but if it becomes a problem we will probably reinforce it. We're also working on making the steering wheels height adjustable, as it is right now connected to the pedal-base that can be moved front to back :)
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    Update on the sim! :) We assembled the entire chair sunday after painting it, and after smoothing out some edges and stuff like that. Here are some pictures:
    IMG_20161023_194957.jpg I'm really happy about the frame so far, and we mounted some wheels to the base for easy moving around :) Some brakes will be added later.

    I finally got my arduino in the mail today with my h-bridge, which i chose before reading about some peoples experience with it (it was the cheapest 24v 10amp h-bridge i could find for like 20 bucks or so) and well as fine it looks...

    IMG_20161025_200303.jpg It couldnt even handle a 3 amp load from a small battery that we found while testing it :( it began to smoke after 5 minutes of playing around with the arduino, and suddenly it sparked and now it looks like this:

    IMG_20161025_200247.jpg IMG_20161025_200258.jpg Please do not buy these cheap h-bridges! :D I just ordered 2x pololu 28v 20 amp motor drivers which should do the trick nicely, although they were a bit pricey :p The arduino works perfectly though, and its nice to have that in my hands after a few years without one, they're so neat! The h bridges will hopefully arrive friday, and I'll update the thread when(if!) it works :D
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    First test of the sim after a weekend of tweaking the settings, the pololu g2 h bridges worked flawlessy, and runs the sims for hours while they only get a bit lukewarm! :D

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  6. getti

    getti Currently building my first 2dof seat mover...

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    what sort of rpm / power are your wheelchair motors ? - they look like a good solution to me !
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    Specs on the Jazzy motor's are located in Miltons thread, titled "CXC Replica" These motor's aren't 100% ideal but that can be found for Cheap cheap and they have a VERY VERY robust gear setup as seen here.

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    Thanks for the link - that was a good read, a very nice build :)
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    Again, I had no specs on them, but after some very rough calculations they had about 100 rpm or so at 24v (calculated from some brochure i found about the wheelchair online)

    At 255 pwm and about 21 amps and 24v it can throw me around like i was light as a feather, and they measure about 40 degrees celcius(the pololu h bridges) when i measure how hot they become, and thats without any heatsinks.

    I just shorted my one h bridge because of some careless wiring, so I'm about to rewire the whole machine and everything so it becomes perfect, some pictures will follow in the next week! :)
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    Those motors look much more suitable than a wiper motor :)

    i will try and find a suitable pair of them
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    These motor's are 2-3X the size of a wiper motor.

    Jazzy 1122 AKA Pride Mobility chairs are more of a US brand than anything,...not likely to find these exact units on your side of the pond....Tho anything possible i guess.
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    good news - i have found a pair of 24v wheelchair motors for a fair price :)

    hope to pick them up tomorrow
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    I got my wheelchair motors today - images attached :)
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    Awesome, now pop that case open and see what cha got....you'll want to remove that Free wheel lever anyways. Also refer to my thread for Pot/feedback mounting. the Main shaft's in these are not hardened (at least mine weren't)

    Whoops this isn't your thread. Lets take this over to your thread shall we @Gadget999
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    Looking good! Will be awesome to see your progress, I am really happy with my motors, especially after having tweaked the settings the last week :) Uploading some pics and a video in a few minutes!
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    IMG_20161111_102739.jpg After having been through the trouble with wires everywhere we took the whole week and tried to make it all neat and fancy, with an emergency switch, a battery gauge and mounting everything on some aluminum incluing the h-bridges so it all acts as a huge heatsink. IMG_20161111_102754.jpg
    Heres a great pic of everything from above, this is also after the whole rebuild where we wanted to have the pedals and wheel moving as well, so it wasnt just a seat mover. IMG_20161111_102800.jpg
    A nice little pic of the potmeters and how we mounted them :) the wires used are just an old ethernet cable, looks good compared to our first soldered solution that looked like shit :p
    IMG_20161111_102818.jpg
    1 pololu 24v21 g2 h bridges that couldnt withstand touching an earthed motor while running, pft, what a load of cheap crap ;) our mistake, the other one survived, even tho it was straight in this ones flames, it looked black, but we dusted it off, ordered two new ones (might wanna do a traction loss later on, so now we have the h bridge) and now we take wiring very seriously :D

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    Second test of the motion sim, after adding the pedals and wheel to the movement, so much nicer, and the h-bridges barely get lukewarm :)

    The clicking noise is a relay that we added, so the motors had a physical brake. They are wheelchair motors, so they are freewheeling when not moving, so to avoid the "shaking" it had trying to get into its position, we ordered a 5 dollar relay on ebay and added that, works like a charm!

    Other than that a plexi-glass box was added to the electronics to protect them, and some wiring was done :)
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Great to see your rig in action, well done :thumbs

    Personally I think you are overdoing the axis throw both in terms of the additional strain on the motors and for use with VR.

    With my levers I use 40 degrees up and down from horizontal. Over about 38 degrees and the effective use of torque drops of rapidly, which means the motors have to work a lot harder.

    For VR precise and fast motion adds a lot to presence.
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