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Earthing wiper motors

Discussion in 'New users start here - FAQ' started by Kass55, Apr 12, 2016.

  1. Kass55

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    I read article about mandatory modifying wiper motors and since I am having trouble I opened up both my wiper motors, but can not see wire
    as it goes down through below plate, which held by 3 small alien screws, which I can't remove.
    I did test and the motor case is connected to + - somewhere inside unit.

    The question is...
    Do the motors have to be earthed ? or simply isolated ?

    My first version of 2DOF seat seamed to work with un-modified wiper motors,
    perhaps because the base & seat base was made of wood, therefore isolated from controller, power units and each other.
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    RacingMat Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    yes it's mandatory
    because with 2 motors connected to ground, when the Hbridge will drive one motor reverse and the other forward, the 12V and 0V will be connected together through the structure
    -> short-circuit!

    yes indeed
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  3. Kass55

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    Thanks for confirm
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    josemanuelrm26 my 2dof

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    You know how isolate mass?
    this manual by the forum ...
    I tube to drill the rivets did not come quite complicated screws to open
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    This requirement is for AC motor only or also DC motor?
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    We are talking about WIPER MOTORS 12V-24V DC here!!
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    Yes, car or truck wiper DC motors.
    Follow the instructions (in FAQ section) to fix Earthing on wiper motors.

    I couldn't undo alien screws (which where damaged),
    so I got around problem by using wood to insulate motors from both base and platform, power supplies and the other motor.
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    if just connect one motor to each MMs, is it need ground isolation?
  9. Kass55

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    The problem is that wiper motors voltage is connected to body & arm of the motor,
    and the +- is changed / reversed each time the motor changes direction, effecting anything connected via metal.
    Should connect motor only via + & - wire, not via metal.
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    no! :confused:
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    You must find your happyness on this PDF
    Good luck

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    this is not true. it is not mandatory . just run with 2 monster moto's each motor has its own board. this is what i have done and for over a year now , no issues.
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    the post is old but I was forced to put it in case someone reads it, it is almost obligatory to isolate the mass motors to avoid accidents, in the face of possible mistakes, I use the translator excuse me.
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    Oh sorry, when I hit the answer, I did not realize that I am in Spanish, I usually leave only one in English, sorry.
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