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Simultaneous Sim Tools "sessions"

Discussion in 'SimTools compatible interfaces' started by stroutmail, Nov 3, 2014.

  1. stroutmail

    stroutmail Member SimAxe Beta Tester Gold Contributor

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    It is my understanding that Sim Tools provides a capacity for a maximum of 6 "interfaces".

    This would mean 6 SCN5's or 6 JRK's. Am I to understand that Arduino's can be set up as one "interface" but two (2) Axes. In other words, would I have 12 Motors controlled by 6 interfaces?

    Next question, can I have more than one running session of Sim Tools at the same time--meaning control of 12 SCN5's or 12 JRK's?

    Here is the issue...

    Lets say I want two SCN5's for the typical seat mover. Then I want one JRK for a "traction loss" sideways mover. Then I want to have a "G Seat" with four motors. It would be like having a Stage IV Simxperience unit with the GS4 seat.

    My understanding is that I could not do the above with Sim Tools as it would be 7 interfaces. (Or perhaps I could if I use Arduino's as it would be 7 axes but only 5 interfaces?)

    So, what if I used one Sim Tools "session" for the seat mover with traction loss and another for the G seat? In other words, two different USB hookups. Could this be done on one computer?

    Thanks in advance for your kind thoughtfulness.
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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Yes, you can have up to 6 interfaces with however many number of motors your interface supports.
    The 'smc3' code for the arduinos supports up to 3 motors per arduino...

    No, you can't have multiple instances running at the same time.

    hope this helps.
    yobuddy
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  4. stroutmail

    stroutmail Member SimAxe Beta Tester Gold Contributor

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    Thank u. Very helpful. Sounds like if you need more than 6 motors you need to learn about using Arduinos.

    Is there anybody who supplies a gear transmission motor with potentiometer all ready put together as a suitable actuator?
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    @yobuddy
    yes simtools support 6 interface and eash can run few motors,but after all the number of
    the axes limited only to 6!?
    the question is ,how can i put for example my 6dof rig on extra full 360 degree YAW platform?(this is my next project)
    thank you
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    @hooshang,
    I don't understand the problem buddy, could you explain a bit more.
    So you would have 2 yaw's?

    yobuddy
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    Here is a simple example where Arduino drives 4 motors
    http://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/arduino-code-4dof-and-1-pin-direction-hbridge.68/

    Pololu 755 only needs PWM and Dir to drive the motor
    So Arduino has 6 PWM pins (3, 5, 6, 9, 10, or 11) so it can drive up 6 motors

    and even more if using SoftPWM tweak...
    https://code.google.com/p/rogue-code/wiki/SoftPWMLibraryDocumentation
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    well my buddy, as you better know ,yaw dof follow the heading value and there is a limitation
    that a 6dof chase 1:1 360 degrees ,so I turn off the yaw value in my 6dof rig and iam going to use
    extra platform for 360 degree of yaw under the whole rig, if possible.does it make sense buddy?
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    Has anybody investigated using this product? http://www.phidgets.com/products.php?category=38&product_id=3273E_0
    It is a DC motor with integrated optical encoder. Seems close to the spec needed for a seat mover with a 3" lever arm. I don't understand whether an Arduino could be used to control this. Their controller goes direct to the USB but seems to require programming in C with their "tools". Beyond my level of competence at this time. I am having trouble finding a wiper motor that would allow easy attachment of a potentiometer. Just seemed like the integrated unit was "elegant". On the other hand, the motor has an small shaft that could drive a potentiometer. http://www.phidgets.com/index.php
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    yes thats the motor used, The supplier is 5 mins drive away from me.
    I will have a look later for photos.
    The gear set up was good, I was trying to take advantage of using as much resolution of a pot as possible, however. I recall I only used about 1.6 turns of a 3 turn pot.
    These days I just use a 360 deg single turn mounted directly on the back of the motor shaft. The difference of 160 deg of a 3 turn pot and 140 deg of a single turn 360 is ZERO. I can notice no difference. They both work just as well.
    I will get back to this post a bit later.
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    a motor supplier 5min away...that makes me slightly jealous
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    Attaching Pots to a Motor isn't that hard, Use Flex Coupler's and its Easy Peezy. Match the 2 sizes up and make a rather simple "L bracket" or "C bracket" to hold the pot

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    Thanks.. My problem has been finding motor with the two shafts..one for the lever and other for the pot.
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    @stroutmail , heres the photos
    2013-07-02 12.09.49.jpg 3 turn pot with gear setup
    2014-03-28 10.35.20.jpg single 360 deg single turn on back of motor shaft
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    Thank you. Looks like there is a supplier called pg saw in BC Canada that has similar motors. Otherwise I might order motors from your neighbor motiondynamics.
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    yep, nearly everything is made in China, either to good or bad specs, and then distributed all over the world.