1. Do not share user accounts! Any account that is shared by another person will be blocked and closed. This means: we will close not only the account that is shared, but also the main account of the user who uses another person's account. We have the ability to detect account sharing, so please do not try to cheat the system. This action will take place on 04/18/2023. Read all forum rules.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. For downloading SimTools plugins you need a Download Package. Get it with virtual coins that you receive for forum activity or Buy Download Package - We have a zero Spam tolerance so read our forum rules first.

    Buy Now a Download Plan!
  3. Do not try to cheat our system and do not post an unnecessary amount of useless posts only to earn credits here. We have a zero spam tolerance policy and this will cause a ban of your user account. Otherwise we wish you a pleasant stay here! Read the forum rules
  4. We have a few rules which you need to read and accept before posting anything here! Following these rules will keep the forum clean and your stay pleasant. Do not follow these rules can lead to permanent exclusion from this website: Read the forum rules.
    Are you a company? Read our company rules

Showroom New- and "Oldcomers" - show your sim concepts and win up to 2000 coins!

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Pit, Apr 13, 2015.

  1. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Hi all newcomers,

    I invite you to present your great ideas, concepts and designs of motion simulation systems in general or parts of motion systems especially. I am the jury, any recourse to courts of law is excluded because the coins are given by myself. :thumbs

    • The most innovative system wins a big amount of 2000 coins.
    • The most innovative part of a motion system wins 1000 coins.

    What you have to do:
    Share your ideas! Preferably you draw a picture /and/or upload any pictures here.

    Good Luck! :)

    PS: the competition never ends (as long as I have any coins...)

    05/16.2015 @willaupuis has won 2000 coins by presenting his G-Seat

    For the moment there are two more concepts nominated:
    Please share your concepts, the more interesting we have the better for the next gen simbuilder ;)
    • Like Like x 11
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
    Last edited: May 17, 2015
  2. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Here an example of what you can imagine it could work (or not) :p
    The background: surge and heave of a 2DOF can - under certain circumstances - block each other. The heave concept transforms a 2DOF seat mover into a 3DOF Platform. Anyway the picture is a concept only ands show you an example how your ideas could be shared to the community.
    Any comments are welcome!
    2DOF Seat Mover Heave Concept:
    heave.jpg
    • Like Like x 1
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2015
  3. RacingMat

    RacingMat Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2013
    Messages:
    2,233
    Location:
    Marseille - FRANCE
    Balance:
    20,876Coins
    Ratings:
    +2,079 / 21 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, DC motor, Arduino
    very good idea @Pit
    I hope it will stimulate some Da Vinci simracers :cool:
    • Funny Funny x 1
  4. bsft

    bsft

    Balance:
    Coins
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Why not just hand out your spare coins anyway? I have handed over 5000 over the last few months
  5. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    I have no doubt about that. Do you need any coins? :cheers(not seriously)
    • Funny Funny x 1
  6. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    I do not like pushing own threads anyway I would like to share my upcoming project - a 3DOF seat mover. You know usually a 3DOF is not a seat mover but a motion platform. Anyway I was thinking how to fiddle out a better heave instead of the "moving heave" of a 2DOF seat mover. Already I got a "better" heave due to the position of the joint, which is more in the front of the seat mounted than in the center of the weight (I hope my explanation makes sense to everybody ...)
    At least the third axle should to be implemented into my 2DOF without tinkering too much.
    IMO i got the solution:
    3DOF seatmover.jpeg
    The third motor needs to be very strong. IMO my 750W winches (+ two MMs as a dual half bridge) should do the job. Nevertheless the third motor is only to lift the seat if the car is lifting, the fine vibrations coming from the surface of the track will be reproduced by the motors 1 and 2.

    PS: heave will be realized by all three motors. Only I am adding this information to avoid any confusion with.
    • Like Like x 3
  7. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2013
    Messages:
    2,779
    Occupation:
    Owner/Operator- Moxleys Rantals
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
    Balance:
    17,054Coins
    Ratings:
    +2,504 / 30 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, 3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    awesome, look forward to the progress Pit.
  8. RaceRay

    RaceRay Administrator Staff Member SimAxe Beta Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2006
    Messages:
    4,656
    Occupation:
    Self-employed | Web and application development
    Location:
    Hamburg, Germany
    Balance:
    23,837Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,958 / 13 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, DC motor, SimAxe, SimforceGT
    What a neat and creative idea pit. I love it:) Feel free to push your own thread much ofdten as you like to. I am sure there is no one with any objection.
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
  9. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    *PUSH* tomorrow's engineers, I am waiting for
    pointing-at-you.jpg
    • Like Like x 2
  10. Bobsyouruncle187

    Bobsyouruncle187 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Messages:
    18
    Balance:
    71Coins
    Ratings:
    +14 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, DC motor, AC motor, SCN6
    @Pit, have you thought about having the pedals/steering/shifter platform move? Possibly mirroring just the heave axis motor.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    I would never do so. Now it is late I am going to bed, so explanation has to be wait until tomorrow or Sunday :)
    • Like Like x 1
  12. willaupuis

    willaupuis Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    76
    Balance:
    1,864Coins
    Ratings:
    +118 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, Arduino, 4DOF
    bonjour je travaille sur deux modèle de Gseat
    Hello I am working on two model Gseat

    design by sketchup, translate by google

    voici le premier modèle:
    here is the first model:

    [​IMG]

    deux moteurs smolka 24v
    un pour pousser et tirer l'assise et les plaque dans le dos (bielle vert) , simulation poussée dans le dos pour l'accélération avec l'assise qui avance et recule le corps (accélération / freinage)
    un pour pousser les épaules (bielle rouge) simulation des poussées latérale gauche et droite

    two 24v engines smolka
    one for pushing and pulling the seat and the back plate (green rod), pushed in the back for simulation acceleration, the seat moves back and forth the body (acceleration / braking)
    one to push the shoulders (red link) simulation of the left and right lateral thrusts

    [​IMG]

    vue avant des plaques pour le dos
    Front view of the plates for the back

    [​IMG]

    zoom sur les bielles vert et le mécanisme pour la poussée dans le dos.
    une grande bielle tire ou pousse sur l'assise, sur les cotés deux petite bielle vert tire ou pousse les plaque dans le dos grâce a des roulettes de rollerskate

    Zoom on green rods and the mechanism for the push in the back.
    a large rod pulls or pushes on the seat, on both sides small green rod pulls or pushes the plate in the back thanks to casters rollerskate

    [​IMG]

    zoom sur le mécanisme de la poussée des épaules
    zoom on the mechanism of the thrust shoulder

    [​IMG]

    vue sur la poussée des plaques dans le dos par les roulettes de rollerskate
    view of the thrust plates in the back by rollerskate wheels
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    @willaupuis already your concept of your 3DOF is pretty much brilliant, now you chime in with this very interesting concept of a G-seat (I hope this is yours, isn't it?), so there is no doubt you have some big genius spirit in yourself, you will win as the very first in the history of xsimulator.net 2000 coins. Congratulation mate!
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  14. willaupuis

    willaupuis Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    76
    Balance:
    1,864Coins
    Ratings:
    +118 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, Arduino, 4DOF
    merci pour les encouragements et les coins,
    oui je vais bientôt commencer a construire le Gseat.
    je mettrais ici des photos et explications dans un nouveau post.
    thank you for the encouragement and coins,
    yes I will soon start building the Gseat.
    I would put here pictures and explanations in a new post.
  15. speedy

    speedy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    1,193
    Location:
    Alexandria , Egypt
    Balance:
    7,916Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,285 / 10 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, AC motor, Arduino, Motion platform
    Hi @Pit ... I wanted to see your bouncing chair video first just to make sure we don't have a conflict of interest :grin ...

    Maybe we can use just 2 motors with a double crank pedals for each motor like this ...
    images.jpg

    So as below figure for left side motor :
    - FIRST we will have a good balance on bothe motors ...
    - SECOND we will have overall 4 controlling point to the seat that can separately simulate a 3 master forces [Heave -Roll - small Pitch angle ] ...


    55.jpg
    • Like Like x 1
    Last edited: May 16, 2015
  16. francois38200

    francois38200 Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2015
    Messages:
    62
    Location:
    vienne
    Balance:
    195Coins
    Ratings:
    +33 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    my new project
    recovery of 2DOF base to created a geko 105 type

    the project is well advanced I give you news in few times :)

    the H translates the movements to shoulders
    geko-2-4a203fd.png
    geko-3-4a20403.png geko-4a203f5.png
    • Like Like x 3
  17. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Indeed I am a crank builder, you will find three cranks and two bottom brackets in my rig, but this is no reason not to support new crank concepts by other members ;)
    Second IMHO there is a fallacy with your concept - the red marked line varies in size, isn't it?
    55.jpg
    • Like Like x 1
  18. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Hi @francois38200 welcome here at xsimulator.net. Your concept is at working stage yet but very interesting already. Your project will be on the nominee list. I am waiting for your great progress!
  19. speedy

    speedy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    1,193
    Location:
    Alexandria , Egypt
    Balance:
    7,916Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,285 / 10 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, AC motor, Arduino, Motion platform
    Yeb :thumbs it varies in length as the light green crank has a circular rotation path ... and that end side has an open sliding slot for a bearing to move along it [ there is a tiny black line indicating that ].
    Last edited: May 17, 2015
  20. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,013
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,410Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,088 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Now see that black line...obviously the speed of the heave will differ in comparison with front lifting and back lifting speed I have to confirm your design is really interesting, absolutely new and worth a try. In my view this concept should earn a chance and is nominated.
    • Like Like x 1